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Jun 8, 1999, 6:29 pm
#2
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validity: till end of quarter following 36 months after credit.
with the exception of the LH flights from Buenos Aires - Santiago de Chile (one way upgrade flying LH = 7'500 miles) or Karachi - Dubai (5'000 miles) you can only upgrade on flights starting/ending in Europe with LH, UA, Condor.
the lowest "price" for a return-award-ticket is 25'000 miles (eco in Germany).
with the exception of the LH flights from Buenos Aires - Santiago de Chile (one way upgrade flying LH = 7'500 miles) or Karachi - Dubai (5'000 miles) you can only upgrade on flights starting/ending in Europe with LH, UA, Condor.
the lowest "price" for a return-award-ticket is 25'000 miles (eco in Germany).
Jun 9, 1999, 9:03 am
#4
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not with a US-Diners-card (I think!?) - but with all StarAlliance carriers.
Sometimes it gives you even more miles using your LH-account on UA flights (UA shuttle give 500 minimum in eco, 1'500 minimum in first on your LH-miles&more-account).
Sometimes it gives you even more miles using your LH-account on UA flights (UA shuttle give 500 minimum in eco, 1'500 minimum in first on your LH-miles&more-account).
Jun 9, 1999, 3:34 pm
#5
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Location: Anaheim Hills, CA, USA
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Thanks for all the replies.
OK, let me understand this a bit better...
Does "you can only upgrade on flights starting/ending in Europe with LH, UA..." mean that I could upgrade a UA fare in either direction from North America to Europe?
Also, I didn't see any of the mileage requirements for upgrades posted on Lufthansa's website. Are the requirements the same as United?
Thanks.
OK, let me understand this a bit better...
Does "you can only upgrade on flights starting/ending in Europe with LH, UA..." mean that I could upgrade a UA fare in either direction from North America to Europe?
Also, I didn't see any of the mileage requirements for upgrades posted on Lufthansa's website. Are the requirements the same as United?
Thanks.
Jun 10, 1999, 2:52 am
#6
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either direction - yes.
No - LH awards cost more miles (US - Europe 5'000 more LH miles&more miles than UA Mileage Plus).
to find the LH award-charts, go to the english LH-home-page:
https://www.lufthansa.com/ehome.htm
than click miles&more
than awards. There you are at:
https://www.lufthansa.com/on-line-schedule/?profile=1&st artFrame=pm_mm_welcome
Typically, LH miles are "worth" 25% less compared with UA - but often you earn them much easier (500 minimum eco UA shuttle, 100% bonus business, 200% first, class-bonus counts for Status, 500 miles per car-rental, as a Senator the award for your partner flying with you costs only 50%).
[This message has been edited by Rudi (edited 06-10-1999).]
No - LH awards cost more miles (US - Europe 5'000 more LH miles&more miles than UA Mileage Plus).
to find the LH award-charts, go to the english LH-home-page:
https://www.lufthansa.com/ehome.htm
than click miles&more
than awards. There you are at:
https://www.lufthansa.com/on-line-schedule/?profile=1&st artFrame=pm_mm_welcome
Typically, LH miles are "worth" 25% less compared with UA - but often you earn them much easier (500 minimum eco UA shuttle, 100% bonus business, 200% first, class-bonus counts for Status, 500 miles per car-rental, as a Senator the award for your partner flying with you costs only 50%).
[This message has been edited by Rudi (edited 06-10-1999).]
Jun 10, 1999, 11:02 am
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Location: Anaheim Hills, CA, USA
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Thanks for the info Rudi!
I checked out the upgrades and they are miles & more than UA! UA offer one-way upgrades from 10,000 miles on certain fares, which is what I was hoping to use. This does beg the question, if I buy a UA ticket and use LH miles for upgrade, am I bound by UA rules or LH rules?
I checked out the upgrades and they are miles & more than UA! UA offer one-way upgrades from 10,000 miles on certain fares, which is what I was hoping to use. This does beg the question, if I buy a UA ticket and use LH miles for upgrade, am I bound by UA rules or LH rules?
Jun 10, 1999, 11:10 am
#8
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LH rules - for sure.
But LH's upgrades (at least on LH flights, may be also on UA flights), are good, since oct-98, on any fare! Even the very heavily discounted "W" fares. I paid in May-99 DM 499 = $300 for Flying (upgraded to business with LH awards) Frankfurt - Philadelphia // Detroit - Frankfurt.
And LH did credit for one segment even (probably a fault) 100% bonus for business, and on both segments plus 2'500 transatlantic-bonus each (I wasn't aware of any such promotion).
But LH's upgrades (at least on LH flights, may be also on UA flights), are good, since oct-98, on any fare! Even the very heavily discounted "W" fares. I paid in May-99 DM 499 = $300 for Flying (upgraded to business with LH awards) Frankfurt - Philadelphia // Detroit - Frankfurt.
And LH did credit for one segment even (probably a fault) 100% bonus for business, and on both segments plus 2'500 transatlantic-bonus each (I wasn't aware of any such promotion).