Please define "Schengen"
Dec 18, 2005, 11:42 pm
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Please define "Schengen"
I have searched and read tons of threads and cannot for the life of me figure out what people are referring to when they talk about the "Schengen" and "nonSchengen" sections of the FRA terminal.
Is it international vs. domestic?
Is it international vs. domestic?
Dec 18, 2005, 11:47 pm
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From http://www.airportcity-frankfurt.com...0.controls.htm
Passport/ID check:
For many destinations within the European Union, the "Schengen Treaty"
has eliminated this check. These include: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland,
France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Luxemburg, the Netherlands, Norway,
Portugal, Spain and Sweden. When you are traveling to countries not covered by
this treaty, your ID (if you are a citizen of an EU country) or passport will be checked.
For many destinations within the European Union, the "Schengen Treaty"
has eliminated this check. These include: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland,
France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Luxemburg, the Netherlands, Norway,
Portugal, Spain and Sweden. When you are traveling to countries not covered by
this treaty, your ID (if you are a citizen of an EU country) or passport will be checked.
Dec 18, 2005, 11:50 pm
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Dec 19, 2005, 12:07 am
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Or the more general answer:
On travel between the member states of the Schengen treaty (some, not all EU states + Norway, but for eg. Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Austria and others) you will generally not experience any passport and customs control.
On travel betrween the member states of the EU you will not experience any customs control (with certain minor exceptions, eg. when travelling into Europe from the Canary Isles of the Channel Islands).
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On travel between the member states of the Schengen treaty (some, not all EU states + Norway, but for eg. Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Austria and others) you will generally not experience any passport and customs control.
On travel betrween the member states of the EU you will not experience any customs control (with certain minor exceptions, eg. when travelling into Europe from the Canary Isles of the Channel Islands).
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Dec 19, 2005, 1:45 am
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A trip between two Schengen countries should basically equal a domestic trip, so no passport checks for example (other than if needed for ID purposes such as at check-in).
If you need a visa you will also apply for a Schengen-visa which is valid for all Schengen countries.
At FRA and other European airports they need to both have a Schengen transit area and a non-Schengen transit area.
The non-Schengen area is there so people travelling for example between the US and the Middle-east should not have to enter the Schengen area (i.e. enter Germany).
However for a passenger travelling for example from the US to Paris/France via FRA the passport control will take place at the first point of entry into the Schengen area. So as Frankfurt-Paris is a Schengen flight (both countries are part of Schengen) the passenger will enter the Schengen area in Frankfurt and passport check will take place in Frankfurt.
May sound a bit complicated, but it is very convinient for people travelling frequently within western Europe as it means less hassle and no passport checks.
If you need a visa you will also apply for a Schengen-visa which is valid for all Schengen countries.
At FRA and other European airports they need to both have a Schengen transit area and a non-Schengen transit area.
The non-Schengen area is there so people travelling for example between the US and the Middle-east should not have to enter the Schengen area (i.e. enter Germany).
However for a passenger travelling for example from the US to Paris/France via FRA the passport control will take place at the first point of entry into the Schengen area. So as Frankfurt-Paris is a Schengen flight (both countries are part of Schengen) the passenger will enter the Schengen area in Frankfurt and passport check will take place in Frankfurt.
May sound a bit complicated, but it is very convinient for people travelling frequently within western Europe as it means less hassle and no passport checks.
Dec 19, 2005, 2:43 am
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Furthermore, we have to say that there are some non-Schengen members for which you don't need Passport. In exemple, an italian man bound to Switzerland or UK, doesn't need the passport, but only National ID card.
BTW, both flights to UK and flights to Switzerland leave from NON-Schengen area.
luke
BTW, both flights to UK and flights to Switzerland leave from NON-Schengen area.
luke
Dec 19, 2005, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by g_leyser
I... cannot for the life of me figure out what people are referring to when they talk about ... "Schengen"
Schengen used to be the place where one would cross the river Moselle to go to Saarbrucken. This process is made much easier these days by a relatively recent motorway going straight from Luxembourg to Saarbrucken. A long tunnel goes underneath the hills with the vineyards.
Schengen is also a stop for little cruise ships going up and down the Moselle, and one day the leaders of some European countries sat down on such a ship to sign a treaty that would abandon all passport and customs controls among member states.
If such a thing as a "Group of cities whose names have become the equivalent for something else better known than the City itself" existed, Schengen would be a member, alongside Waterloo, Yalta and Bretton Woods.
Hope that helps.... or is it off topic?
Dec 19, 2005, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by creber
It has about 3,500 inhabitants, many of whom work in the vineyards that stretch all along the Moselle valley, producing small quantities of very under-estimated white wines (mostly Riesling, Pinots of all shades, Gewürztraminer).
OK, it's too cold over there for red wine grapes to ripen (other than the "pinot noir", a true survivor!), so I forgive them...
Dec 19, 2005, 6:23 am
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In MUC T2 they had built two levels to separate Schengen (G-Level) and Non-Schengen (H-Level).
But since the US sterile area has come into force and the number non-Schengen EU non Duty free countries have exploded this year, they have moved all flights to non-shengen EU countries and Switzerland to G37-48 with a passport control gate beside G36. Looks terrible.
But since the US sterile area has come into force and the number non-Schengen EU non Duty free countries have exploded this year, they have moved all flights to non-shengen EU countries and Switzerland to G37-48 with a passport control gate beside G36. Looks terrible.
Dec 19, 2005, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
In MUC T2 [...] they have moved all flights to non-shengen EU countries and Switzerland to G37-48 with a passport control gate beside G36. Looks terrible.
