Wage negotiations for LH Ground &MRO staff: Verdi strike on July 27 2022
https://www.verdi.de/themen/nachrich...5-001a4a16012a
The summer of trouble continues. First round of negotiations begins June 30. Affected companies: Lufthansa AG Groundhandling, Lufthansa Technik, Lufthansa Systems, Lufthansa Technik Logistik Dienstleistungen (LTLS), Lufthansa Cargo & Lufthansa Service Gesellschaft (LSG) |
Oh Boy, here we go again :rolleyes:
Stopandgohansa |
Lounge F&B staff seem so miserable. Are they Unionised? They must be some of the lowest paid.
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Lounge/GateGourmet staff are in Verdi but not part of this negotiation.
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Inflation is a nightmare for employees & employers, this is going to be very challenging to resolve
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Negotiations continue tomorrow. Some details about what they are asking for were also published:
Neben der ver.di-Forderung nach 9,5 Prozent mehr Gehalt, mindestens aber 350 Euro monatlich, bei einer Laufzeit von zwölf Monaten soll der Stundenlohn für die jeweiligen Beschäftigtengruppen mindestens 13 Euro betragen. Zurzeit gibt es bei der LTLS und der Lufthansa Cargo noch Stundenlöhne unter 12 Euro. Es gilt außerdem, auch nach der Anhebung des Mindestlohns auf zwölf Euro, einen tariflichen Abstand zum Mindestlohn zu vereinbaren. No mention of strikes so far. Summer vacations in FRA/Hessen start July 22... they are unlikely to strike after that. |
LH's offer was not to verdis satisfaction (mainly the duration of 18 months). Next round on August 3:
https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik.../28505720.html |
Originally Posted by hugolover
(Post 34365868)
Lounge F&B staff seem so miserable. Are they Unionised? They must be some of the lowest paid.
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https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtscha...-18197220.html
[Additional] disruptions ahead on Wednesday, the union VERDI has called for a one day strike for ground personel. |
Originally Posted by cas_de
(Post 34455380)
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtscha...-18197220.html
[Additional] disruptions ahead on Wednesday, the union VERDI has called for a one day strike for ground personel. |
https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/ne...employees.html
Warning strike by ver.di unreasonable for customers and employeesToday, the trade union ver.di called on the about 20,000 ground employees of Deutsche Lufthansa AG to stage a warning strike from Wednesday, 27 July at 3.45 a.m. until Thursday morning, 28 July at 6.00 a.m.Michael Niggemann, Member of the Executive Board Chief Officer Human Resources Deutsche Lufthansa AG, said: "After only two days of negotiations, ver.di has announced a strike that can hardly be called a warning strike due to its breadth across all locations and its duration. This is all the more incomprehensible given that the employer side has offered high and socially balanced pay increases – despite the continuing tense economic situation for Lufthansa following the Covid crisis, high debt burdens and uncertain prospects for the global economy. After the enormous efforts to stabilize our flight operations, this represents a renewed, substantial and unnecessary burden for our passengers and also for our employees beyond the strike day." Among other things, the Group has presented a package with the following components. Beginning 1 July 2022, with a term of 18 months, each employee would receive:
The next round of negotiations has long been agreed upon and will take place on 3 and 4 August 2022. |
I have a flight on the 27th MUC-LHR. What are the chances of them pro-actively rebooking me on a flight of my choice if I contact them now, before the flight has been canceled and they rebook me on something I do not want? I would rather fly tomorrow and not on Thursday or later.
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They will publish a plan this evening:
Strike call by the union Verdi for Lufthansa ground staff on 27 JulyThe union Verdi has called a one-day warning strike for Lufthansa ground staff throughout Germany. For this reason, we expect massive restrictions for the Lufthansa flight schedule on Wednesday, 27 July. We will publish more information about cancellations and further flight schedule changes by Monday evening. Please constantly check the status of your flight on lufthansa.com. If you are affected by a cancellation of a Lufthansa flight, Lufthansa will rebook you on another flight free of charge and usually automatically and inform you via your mobile phone number or by e-mail. However, at the moment it takes longer to find an adequate rebooking solution during the peak travel season. If you do not receive a message from Lufthansa, please check the current status of your booking. Here you can also adjust the rebooking again if you wish. |
Is it safe to assume that incoming non-LH / non-LH group flights should be OK on Wednesday?
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Assume flights on Thursday are also likely to be disrupted due to knock-on effects?
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Originally Posted by cbellero
(Post 34455565)
I have a flight on the 27th MUC-LHR. What are the chances of them pro-actively rebooking me on a flight of my choice if I contact them now, before the flight has been canceled and they rebook me on something I do not want? I would rather fly tomorrow and not on Thursday or later.
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Originally Posted by mustafina
(Post 34455797)
Assume flights on Thursday are also likely to be disrupted due to knock-on effects?
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Originally Posted by cbellero
(Post 34455565)
I have a flight on the 27th MUC-LHR. What are the chances of them pro-actively rebooking me on a flight of my choice if I contact them now, before the flight has been canceled and they rebook me on something I do not want? I would rather fly tomorrow and not on Thursday or later.
Anyway they let me fly one day early tomorrow. |
I do have to mention that they were showing wider availability for other flights tomorrow than is being shown as bookable online. At the moment, I only see one connection via VIE. She mentioned at least four other possibilities as still being available. Or perhaps I had a bad agent. I might call again in a few minutes.
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Selfish question here: will this directly affect Austrian operations? I can't really tell from the news reports, but I'm thinking Austrian employees likely have a different union and contract.
I'm sure there will be a lot of rebooking pressure onto Austrian flights though. |
I notice that it is no longer possible to book any direct flights on the 27th from Munich or Frankfurt to LON. Almost all of the alternatives route through VIE and they cost 1150 EUR! for a one-way. Perhaps the strike is turning into a profit generating business strategy. :)
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I do not know what their definition of "evening" is, but I would have expected the cancellations by now.
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Originally Posted by cbellero
(Post 34456811)
I notice that it is no longer possible to book any direct flights on the 27th from Munich or Frankfurt to LON. Almost all of the alternatives route through VIE and they cost 1150 EUR! for a one-way. Perhaps the strike is turning into a profit generating business strategy. :)
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So I am one of the lucky ones to be flying WAW-FRA-LAX on the 27th on LH Metal with a UA Ticket Issued by AMEX Corp. Travel. Who the heck do I call if I get stuck?
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Originally Posted by Cris
(Post 34456948)
So I am one of the lucky ones to be flying WAW-FRA-LAX on the 27th on LH Metal with a UA Ticket Issued by AMEX Corp. Travel. Who the heck do I call if I get stuck?
If it were me, I'd try Amex first. They'll likely be the most customer-friendly. What I can't say is, how much power they'll have. But maybe you can get on the LOT nonstop? |
Originally Posted by Cris
(Post 34456948)
So I am one of the lucky ones to be flying WAW-FRA-LAX on the 27th on LH Metal with a UA Ticket Issued by AMEX Corp. Travel. Who the heck do I call if I get stuck?
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Originally Posted by josephstern
(Post 34456957)
I think: anyone who will answer.
If it were me, I'd try Amex first. They'll likely be the most customer-friendly. What I can't say is, how much power they'll have. But maybe you can get on the LOT nonstop? |
Originally Posted by hugolover
(Post 34456982)
It's full
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Originally Posted by cbellero
(Post 34456815)
I do not know what their definition of "evening" is, but I would have expected the cancellations by now.
"On Tuesday, 26 July, Lufthansa will publish the cancellations in the system and try to find a solution for affected passengers. If you have left your mobile contact in your booking, Lufthansa will contact them in case of cancellation and rebooking." |
Originally Posted by JFSV
(Post 34455638)
Is it safe to assume that incoming non-LH / non-LH group flights should be OK on Wednesday?
TP, SQ, TG are handled by other handling agents. |
Any info as to what time it will all be published?
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Hello, I wondered if this is likely to affect Swiss/Helvetica flights (that do not pass through Germany)?
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Originally Posted by pdeut
(Post 34457096)
Any info as to what time it will all be published?
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Originally Posted by under2100
(Post 34457116)
Hello, I wondered if this is likely to affect Swiss/Helvetica flights (that do not pass through Germany)?
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Originally Posted by chris63
(Post 34457134)
They already missed their promise of this evening :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by TPJ
(Post 34457094)
Not really as in e.g. FRA, Lufti also handles airlines like LO, CA, SK.
TP, SQ, TG are handled by other handling agents. |
Originally Posted by pdeut
(Post 34457147)
Indeed; I was wondering for tomorrow. I get the feeling one would need to act quick to secure a proper seat on Thursday if the bot messes up.
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Originally Posted by JFSV
(Post 34457179)
Thanks. I was referring to an IB flight to be specific, coming into FRA T2. I presume this should be fine, but I do not know if these are the same ground handling people serving other carriers as well.
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I never had any sympathy for VERDI, but this is getting ridiculous. In the midst of a huge chaos and ongoing negotiations they are hitting ... the passengers. And they are wondering why approval ratings for unions is falling every year.
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