A346 return to service in 2022 and leave in 2026

Old Jul 5, 2023 | 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by rdukrk
Oh dear. I'm actually scheduled on that flight Friday, July 7. it seems like everything should be sorted out by then, yes? Thanks in advance.
It is already sorted out. 7/4 flight departed on 7/5 a mere 22 hours later than originally scheduled.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63
Indeed but why dont they carry one in the hold, since it is a well known issue ?
They do on special flights etc. As CLT has been a A346 destination before, the towbar is probably somewhere in a shed But Im still surprised that CLT/AA/ground handling/pushbacker etc. couldnt find a towbarless tug to deal with this issue
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
The A346 used to fly to CLT, they proably assumed they still had one. 🤷‍♂️
Assumptions can be very expensive, none thought to ask the CLT station to check ?

EC261, known issue & all that.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by curt
They do on special flights etc. As CLT has been a A346 destination before, the towbar is probably somewhere in a shed But Im still surprised that CLT/AA/ground handling/pushbacker etc. couldnt find a towbarless tug to deal with this issue
Maybe the towbarless tug is missing a part & its in the same shed as the A346 towbar ?
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 8:01 am
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Hi folks, can you shed some light on why the A346 needs a unique towbar? What's so special about it?

I did a search and couldn't find anything.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by ualboston1k
Hi folks, can you shed some light on why the A346 needs a unique towbar? What's so special about it?
When Airbus designed the ill fated A345 and 346 series (flopped against the B77L and B77W respectively) the specification for the towbar changed. So the towbar for 'regular' A330/340s cannot be used on A345/346.

Some insight from PPRune: https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...ml#post9452612
An A330/A343 towbar cannot be used [...] due to the weight differential and the shear pin loading.
The A345/346 Manual says (page 320)

https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files...40-500_600.pdf

A conventional type towbar is required which should be equipped with a damping system (to protect
the NLG against jerks) and with towing shear pins:
- A traction shear pin calibrated at 40 400 daN (90 823 lbf),
- A torsion pin calibrated at 4 800 m.daN (424 836 lbf.in).
The towing head is designed according to ISO 8267-1, cat. IV.
The A350 towbar has lower shear/torsion limits and a different head:
https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files...0-900-1000.pdf
Same for the A330:
https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files...ft-AC-A330.pdf

Section 5-8-0

A conventional type towbar is required which should be equipped with a damping system (to protect
the NLG against jerks) and with towing shear pins:
- A traction shear pin calibrated at 28 620 daN (64 340 lbf),
- A torsion pin calibrated at 3 130 m.daN (277 028 lbf.in).
The towing head is designed according to ISO 8267--1, cat. III.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63
Maybe the towbarless tug is missing a part & its in the same shed as the A346 towbar ?
Yep, thats probably it
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 10:45 pm
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I just noticed that the 346 flight HKG-FRA LH797 was cancelled. According to flightradar the plane arrived in Hong Kong about on time. Any idea why?
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 4:55 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
The A346 used to fly to CLT, they proably assumed they still had one. 🤷‍♂️
got a 346 scheduled for IAD-MUC in August, hope they got the right towbar!
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 5:06 am
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Originally Posted by whiskey_sk
got a 346 scheduled for IAD-MUC in August, hope they got the right towbar!
At IAD the Tugs could do it let alone they ought to have an A346 towbar , you should be safe..
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 5:10 am
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HF left TEV today for MLA: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-aihf#311a6de0

With this all 10 A346 have been reactivated.
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 8:16 am
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Great news, thx. Happy to see all LH A346 back in service.
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
Great news, thx. Happy to see all LH A346 back in service.
Yes but they are old & subject to tech issues, no A346 to HKG today & a day when their is no service on LX to HKG for rebookings
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by chris63
Yes but they are old & subject to tech issues, no A346 to HKG today & a day when their is no service on LX to HKG for rebookings
Is it possible on a short notice cancellation to rebook to ANA via LHR? Have the same flight coming up in F.
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by lx343
Is it possible on a short notice cancellation to rebook to ANA via LHR? Have the same flight coming up in F.
Of course if you are booked in F, just call the dedicated LH F line, and ask for your preferred option, they will initially offer you other LHG options, ie LX but it worked today, see the downgrade thread, rebooked to EK F after initially telling the OP, there were no F options
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