Face Masks and Toddlers
#16
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Are they also non compliant when it comes to wearing pants? Or a shirt? If not, then treat the mask the same as any other piece of clothing that they must wear when being out in public. Rather than looking for ways to get around the rule, start working with your child now. They are non compliant because you allow them to be. They know they need to wear clothes, the mask should be just one more article of clothing that is required when getting on a plane. Would you let them get away with telling you they refuse to wear clothes on the plane?
#17
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Are they also non compliant when it comes to wearing pants? Or a shirt? If not, then treat the mask the same as any other piece of clothing that they must wear when being out in public. Rather than looking for ways to get around the rule, start working with your child now. They are non compliant because you allow them to be. They know they need to wear clothes, the mask should be just one more article of clothing that is required when getting on a plane. Would you let them get away with telling you they refuse to wear clothes on the plane?
#18
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Lol, well I guess you have a problem then. I hope he grows out of it before he starts school. But all joking aside, I am sure you insist on clothes when you take him out in public. Make the mask just another piece of clothing that is not negotiable if he wants to go out. If you start now, it will be normal by the time you fly.
#19
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Fly SAS. They won't enforce it in either direction for under 6. Not sure about AF and BA, but they listed 11 as the age requirement for wearing a mask, so they might also be better options.
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#20
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Children are one of the few groups still universally excluded from vaccine programmes. As soon as the vaccines are approved in the 2-5 age category, then the 0-2, plus boosters are rolled out for all other groups, perhaps masks might be history and these threads can rightly be put to bed.
#21
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So, in summary, I had good experiences flying LX, TK and FJ longhaul with kids, not being hassled about masks and then same was true for adults being able to keep them off for long periods. The only horror show was LH, which should be avoided at all costs and is now on my full boycott list. I got a horrible purser, which would have been just a "bad" flight under normal circumstances but it become a flight from hell thanks to "Ilse the shewolf".
I should add that LX (Swiss) was really nice. We came armed with doctor's notes for both kids since the flight was to the US but it had a very professional and friendly purser and very nice staff in general. The leader sets the tone. I should add that we were in business class, so not sure if it would be as easygoing in eco. It's unfortunate that LX is in LH Group. Note that Switzerland requires masks from age 12 and the same policy on board, but the exception is supposedly flights to the US. Honestly, I think this is a stupid interpretation by a bureaucrat at LH Group since other airlines do not demand this. E.g., Swiss does not set the age to 6 for a flight to FRA because that is the German standard.
I should add that LX (Swiss) was really nice. We came armed with doctor's notes for both kids since the flight was to the US but it had a very professional and friendly purser and very nice staff in general. The leader sets the tone. I should add that we were in business class, so not sure if it would be as easygoing in eco. It's unfortunate that LX is in LH Group. Note that Switzerland requires masks from age 12 and the same policy on board, but the exception is supposedly flights to the US. Honestly, I think this is a stupid interpretation by a bureaucrat at LH Group since other airlines do not demand this. E.g., Swiss does not set the age to 6 for a flight to FRA because that is the German standard.