Covid19: Direct turnaround from the US in FRA
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Covid19: Direct turnaround from the US in FRA
Is it possible to fly Lufthansa from USA and return same day to USA without passport control/security/covid testing?
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Even if you are admissible, you would need a COVID test, but you wouldn't need to reclear security or clear passport control in FRA.
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Before bringing you to Germany LH has to do a Visa and Health check to verify your eligibility to come to the EU/Germany. Since you would fail both they will offload you from the flight and you can't leave the US.
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"...present a negative COVID-19 test, taken within three (3) calendar days of departure.."
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He probably could, but he would not be able to put himself in that position.
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Haha
as a passerby reader I didn’t expect an Evangelist would ask such a question
What makes ALL of us read and post on here?
The greed for Flying
let’s not flat lie, let’s lie flat
most -if not all- of us would love to sit on a J or F throne, sip some bubbles and do it again in the opposite direction for some 20 hours, like in the good ol’ days...
as a passerby reader I didn’t expect an Evangelist would ask such a question
What makes ALL of us read and post on here?
The greed for Flying
let’s not flat lie, let’s lie flat
most -if not all- of us would love to sit on a J or F throne, sip some bubbles and do it again in the opposite direction for some 20 hours, like in the good ol’ days...
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OP - Without knowing your citizenship & residency, it is impossible to answer. You list MSY as your location, leading me to believe that you are at least a US resident if not citizen.
Yes, an appropriate Covid test obtained pre-departure in the US could be used both for entry to Germany and then to board and return to the US.
As with all international travel, have you run your details through TIMATIC?
Yes, an appropriate Covid test obtained pre-departure in the US could be used both for entry to Germany and then to board and return to the US.
As with all international travel, have you run your details through TIMATIC?
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OP - Without knowing your citizenship & residency, it is impossible to answer. You list MSY as your location, leading me to believe that you are at least a US resident if not citizen.
Yes, an appropriate Covid test obtained pre-departure in the US could be used both for entry to Germany and then to board and return to the US.
As with all international travel, have you run your details through TIMATIC?
Yes, an appropriate Covid test obtained pre-departure in the US could be used both for entry to Germany and then to board and return to the US.
As with all international travel, have you run your details through TIMATIC?
#13
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- Covid test from US would be ok if it is still in <72 hour window
- yes, it is possible to do without immigration
- no, you cannot avoid security
So, if I understand correctly, the real question is: what exactly are you planning, and what is your situation (passports, etc). If you only want to avoid security/immigration to save time, you might be ok (there is a security fast lane).
If, however, you are not allowed to immigrate, you might not be able to board the flight, even if you wouldnt need to immigrate. You wouldnt need to, but as you wouldnt be allowed to, you wouldnt be allowed to fly at all.
Is this also the understanding of others?
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The difficult thing is that we do not know if he is not allowed, or if he is just not willing to enter Germany! I think it would be possible to land at FRA and not use immigration, but if I remember correctly you would definitely need to clear security. So as far as I understand:
- Covid test from US would be ok if it is still in <72 hour window
- yes, it is possible to do without immigration
- no, you cannot avoid security
So, if I understand correctly, the real question is: what exactly are you planning, and what is your situation (passports, etc). If you only want to avoid security/immigration to save time, you might be ok (there is a security fast lane).
If, however, you are not allowed to immigrate, you might not be able to board the flight, even if you wouldnt need to immigrate. You wouldnt need to, but as you wouldnt be allowed to, you wouldnt be allowed to fly at all.
Is this also the understanding of others?
- Covid test from US would be ok if it is still in <72 hour window
- yes, it is possible to do without immigration
- no, you cannot avoid security
So, if I understand correctly, the real question is: what exactly are you planning, and what is your situation (passports, etc). If you only want to avoid security/immigration to save time, you might be ok (there is a security fast lane).
If, however, you are not allowed to immigrate, you might not be able to board the flight, even if you wouldnt need to immigrate. You wouldnt need to, but as you wouldnt be allowed to, you wouldnt be allowed to fly at all.
Is this also the understanding of others?
The only case he could not avoid security would be if his aircraft parks at a B gate which doesn't happen that often for US arrivals.