Most expensive LH/LX F fare you've ever paid?
Apr 13, 2019, 11:13 am
#31
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Apr 13, 2019, 12:55 pm
#32
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Too far away fom HON, but the F flights (book into A were NRT-FRA,FRA-JNB-FRA,FRA-LAX is about 21000 Miles, so 63000+Status Bonus HON miles. Total amount of Status Miles is over 100.000. Enough for SEN if done inside one year. Not the cheapest way, but comfortable and flexible.
Apr 13, 2019, 5:04 pm
#33
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Too far away fom HON, but the F flights (book into A were NRT-FRA,FRA-JNB-FRA,FRA-LAX is about 21000 Miles, so 63000+Status Bonus HON miles. Total amount of Status Miles is over 100.000. Enough for SEN if done inside one year. Not the cheapest way, but comfortable and flexible.
Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 pm
#35
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so far I never made use of ex-Cdg/bud/mxp etc. fares just because I value time at home way more so my ex-DE fares obviously come at a surcharge. Same with travel dates - sometimes I book F because A isn’t available. Also, I fly to where work takes me - not where cheap fares allow me to...
so yeah, I agree 30k is pretty cheap for HON. But I doubt it’s doable for most of us unless you aim for HON to be HON (unlike HON because that’s what results from your travel) or your extremely lucky with where you live at and need to go to.
Apr 14, 2019, 12:11 am
#38
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unless you got waaaay too much time to reposition etc
so far I never made use of ex-Cdg/bud/mxp etc. fares just because I value time at home way more so my ex-DE fares obviously come at a surcharge. Same with travel dates - sometimes I book F because A isn’t available. Also, I fly to where work takes me - not where cheap fares allow me to...
so yeah, I agree 30k is pretty cheap for HON. But I doubt it’s doable for most of us unless you aim for HON to be HON (unlike HON because that’s what results from your travel) or your extremely lucky with where you live at and need to go to.
Full disclosure--I do sometimes do positioning or separate tickets to get cheaper fares (and I have zero problem doing the intra-EU leg in economy--never understood posters here who say they have to fly business for that). But I've never booked a ticket to a destination for the mere fact that it was a cheap A class destination.
Apr 14, 2019, 3:09 am
#39
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You are rapidly becoming my favorite poster.
Full disclosure--I do sometimes do positioning or separate tickets to get cheaper fares (and I have zero problem doing the intra-EU leg in economy--never understood posters here who say they have to fly business for that). But I've never booked a ticket to a destination for the mere fact that it was a cheap A class destination.
a) is it a direct return (e.g. MUC-BUD-MUC) or not (or stopover at EU starting point)
b) how much carry-on luggage I will take with me
Apr 14, 2019, 3:54 am
#40
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You are rapidly becoming my favorite poster.
Full disclosure--I do sometimes do positioning or separate tickets to get cheaper fares (and I have zero problem doing the intra-EU leg in economy--never understood posters here who say they have to fly business for that). But I've never booked a ticket to a destination for the mere fact that it was a cheap A class destination.
Regarding the positioning I think it really depends on how busy your life is. If you are a big shot that calculates their hourly wage at 1-2k/hour, than having a detour that can make you lose 5-6 hours maybe doesn’t make sense financially for you, but if you are some normal person, you would probably prefer to save 2-3k in the fare and spending an extra 5-6 hours.
Apr 14, 2019, 3:59 am
#41
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I think destination wise it can make sense to chose a destination that may not be your exact final destination but is close enough in order to save a lot of money. Let’s say you want to fly to HKG, but the fare difference of flying instead to BKK is huge, in this case I think it makes sense to chose a close-by destination.
Regarding the positioning I think it really depends on how busy your life is. If you are a big shot that calculates their hourly wage at 1-2k/hour, than having a detour that can make you lose 5-6 hours maybe doesn’t make sense financially for you, but if you are some normal person, you would probably prefer to save 2-3k in the fare and spending an extra 5-6 hours.
Apr 14, 2019, 4:15 am
#42
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Also when I'm valuing my time I don't do it big corporation style, where you're always charging a lot of hours a week to the clients or something similar to look very busy and therefore artificially increase your hourly wage, I regularly work a lot less hours than those jobs and make more than others I know who work those jobs. As you already said once, quality over quantity.
Apr 14, 2019, 4:22 am
#43
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Not exactly the point I was trying to make. Obviously you need a good financial situation in order to regularly fly F, but what I meant is someone like me who has enough free time to lose 5 or 6 hours when I'm travelling, if that means I can save enough on the flight fare to invest in other components of the trip like hotels and restaurants, I'll do it.
Also when I'm valuing my time I don't do it big corporation style, where you're always charging a lot of hours a week to the clients or something similar to look very busy and therefore artificially increase your hourly wage, I regularly work a lot less hours than those jobs and make more than others I know who work those jobs. As you already said once, quality over quantity.
Also when I'm valuing my time I don't do it big corporation style, where you're always charging a lot of hours a week to the clients or something similar to look very busy and therefore artificially increase your hourly wage, I regularly work a lot less hours than those jobs and make more than others I know who work those jobs. As you already said once, quality over quantity.
Apr 14, 2019, 4:34 am
#44
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No question that lawyers and consultants are useless. But you don’t have to be on the billable hour to know how much you value your time. And if you’re the CEO of a company with sufficient revenues to support premium travel of this time, I’d argue that your time on an hourly basis is worth much more than $2k.
Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 am
#45
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My partner is the founder of a company. If her investors found that she was making this trade off, they would rightfully wonder if she was the right person for the job. Not really the best use of her time, even if she can’t subdivide her time into billable units or invoice a client.