ASR on LO flights as *G
Jun 23, 2017, 12:20 am
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ASR on LO flights as *G
Does LO allow ASR for *G in Y on their long hauls?
I have a travel agent made reservation with an LO PNR (obtained from the agent). When I load the reservation in the lot.com soft, I am only able to see my personal data, not even flight numbers, forget seat reservation. I tried loading it into "reserve your seat" section, but this also lands me at the same page with my personal data. Is there a point to call, or will they shake me off as a non MM member?
(if there is an existing thread on this please point me to it; I tried to google but no success)
I have a travel agent made reservation with an LO PNR (obtained from the agent). When I load the reservation in the lot.com soft, I am only able to see my personal data, not even flight numbers, forget seat reservation. I tried loading it into "reserve your seat" section, but this also lands me at the same page with my personal data. Is there a point to call, or will they shake me off as a non MM member?
(if there is an existing thread on this please point me to it; I tried to google but no success)
Jun 23, 2017, 3:58 am
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No complimentary seat assignment for non-Miles & More *G. Even M&M SEN (*G) companions have to pay.
Also... complimentary seat assignment is NOT a published *G benefit (quite opposite to oneWorld - as an OWE you would get premium seat assignment for free on any oneWorld carrier).
Also... complimentary seat assignment is NOT a published *G benefit (quite opposite to oneWorld - as an OWE you would get premium seat assignment for free on any oneWorld carrier).
Jun 23, 2017, 4:08 am
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I do realize that this is not a published benefit. I am seeking advice on practice not on rules 
Thanks, your answer is exactly what I needed.
Sometimes it worked for me in the past, but probably I was on a fare that included a seat reservation. Now I recalled that they distinguish this. I find it fairly irritating that a $1000 1-way fare from Eastern US to Europe does not include a seat reservation, though...
Thanks, your answer is exactly what I needed. Sometimes it worked for me in the past, but probably I was on a fare that included a seat reservation. Now I recalled that they distinguish this. I find it fairly irritating that a $1000 1-way fare from Eastern US to Europe does not include a seat reservation, though...
Last edited by SK2751; Jun 23, 2017 at 4:36 am
Jun 23, 2017, 4:46 am
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AAAS ANCILLARY ENG EN 7JUN17 1139Z
RATES FOR CHARGEABLE SEATS ON LO FLIGHTS:
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F L I G H T S R A T E S
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DOMESTIC - (SAVER) PLN 20 / EUR 5 / USD 7 / CAD 8
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SHORT HAUL - (SAVER) PLN 30 / EUR 10/ USD 11/ CAD 15
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LONG HAUL PLN 75 / EUR 20 / USD 25 / CAD 27 / JPY 2300
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LONG HAUL - SEATS 20A-20J PLN 200 / EUR 50 / USD 55 / CAD 70 / JPY 7100
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** EMD ISSUED FOR CHARGEABLE SEAT IS FREE FROM TRANSACTION FEE ***
EXCEPTIONS:
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1. PASSENGER TRAVELLING IN ELITE (BUSINESS CLASS) AND PREMIUM CLUB
(PREMIUM ECONOMY);
2. FF GOLD CARD HON, SENATOR;
FOR SALES ON/AFTER 01MAR15 EXCEPTION WILL REFER ONLY TO FF MEMBERS
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AAAS ANCILLARY ENG EN 7JUN17 1139Z
WITH GOLD HON AND SENATOR CARDS;
3. PASSENGERS WITH BOOKING IN X CLASS (EFF.24JUN14)
4. UMNR WITH SPECIFIC U/SEAT;
5. ALL SEATS DESIGNATED BY THE AIRLINE FOR BSCT, STCR;
6. GROUP PNRS FOR GROUP TRAFFIC;
Jun 23, 2017, 5:18 am
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@oliver2002, do you happen to know how to distinguish LO fares including reservation from those that don't? (by fare name)
Last edited by SK2751; Jun 23, 2017 at 5:46 am
Jun 23, 2017, 5:55 am
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Code:
FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
GENERAL INFORMATION - KEY TERMS AND FEATURES
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LO FARE IS A PRODUCT APPLIED TO THE DISPLAY AND CALCULATION OF TARIFFS IN
THE AMADEUS SYSTEM AND PLACING ON THE MARKET BY THE AIRLINE ACCORDING TO
ITS STRUCTURE USED ON DIFFERENT "FARE FAMILIES". EACH "FARE FAMILY" HAS
A COMMON CHARACTERISTICS IN TERMS OF MAKING A BOOKING CHANGE OR REFUND
AND INCLUDED ADDITIONAL SERVICES. IN LOT WORDING AND VOCABULARY THESE FARES
ARE KNOWN AS VALUE ADDED BUNDLED FARES (VAB).
FARE FAMILY FUNCTIONALITY ENABLES THE DISPLAY OF LOADED VAB FARES STRUCTURE
THEIR NAMES AND CHARACTERISTIC, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL AIRLINE SERVICES
INCLUDED IN THE PRICE OF THE FARE PAID, ALL THOSE WITH EXTRA SURCHARGE
OR EVEN THOSE THAT ARE NOT FOR SALE.
FARE DISPLAY OF LO FARE FAMILIES - FQD
========================================
ALL OPTIONS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR FQD DISPLAY REMAIN VALID.
WHICH MEANS THE POSSIBILITY OF COMBINING THEM INTO ONE SINGLE ENTRY
AS INDICATGED BELOW:
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
FQDSZZKIV/D20AUG/IX,L/R,12MAR17,FX/KM - FQD FARE FAMILIES DISPLAY FOR LO
VAB FARES FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING
ON 20AUG WITH "/I" DISPLAY OPTION
TO REQUEST REVERSE FARE DISPLAY
LOT T HIGH, WITHOUT THE CARRIER
LIST OR TAX MESSAGES, WITH OB FEE
EXCLUDED AND FOR "ECONOMY"
COMPARTMENT".
THE SYSTEM OUTPUT RETURNS ALL VAB FARES GROUPED TOGETHER STARTING WITH
MORE RESTRICTIVE ONE.
LOT FARE FAMILIES CURRENTLY IN FORCE, HAVE BEEN DEFINED ACCORDING TO THE
FOLLOWING SCHEME:
-ECOSAVER - MEANS ECONOMY SAVER -PRESTAND - MEANS PREMIUM STANDAR
-ECOSTAND - MEANS ECONOMY STANDARD -PREFLEX - MEANS PREMIUM FLEX
-ECOFLEX - MEANS ECONOMY FLEX
- BUSTAND - MEANS BUSINESS STANDARD
- BUFLEX - MEANS BUSINESS FLEX
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
LIST OF FARE DISPLAY FOLLOW-UP OPTIONS - FQD
=============================================
YOU CAN REQUEST THE BELOW FOLLOW UP ENTRIES FROM A FARE DISPLAY.
ALL FOLLOW-UP ENTRIES FOR VAB STAND UNCHANGED IN COMPARISON WITH CURRENT
SYSTEM PROCESSING.
FQR - DISPLAY FARE ROUTING
FQS - DISPLAY BOOKING CODES (RBD)
FQN - DISPLAY A FARE NOTE
FQK - DISPLAY FARE AND TAX BREAKDOWN (BASE FARE PLUS APPLICABLE OB FEE)
IN FARE NOTE, EACH VAB FARE TYPE HAS A "FAMILY" DESCRIPTION TO WHICH
IT BELONGS TO AND ATTRIBUTES CHARACTERISTIC FOR THE SPECIFIC FARE.
ADDITIONALLY ATTRIBUTES ARE ALSO PUBLISHED ON GP45 MS119 PAGE.
INCLUDED - ATTRIBUTES FOR FREE SERVICE OFFERED IN THE BUNDLE
AT CHARGE - ATTRIBUTES FOR ADDITIONALLY CHARGEABLE SERVICES
NOT OFFERED - ATTRIBUTES NOT ELIGIBLE FOR PURCHASE IN THE BUNDLE
***WARNING*** ALL SERVICES MAY NOT BE DELIVERED AS THE REQUESTED FARE
COMPONENT MAY INCLUDE A CODESHARE FLIGHT OR AN
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
INTERLINE ITINERARY.
FARE FAMILIES INFORMATIVE PRICING - FQP
=======================================
ALL OPTIONS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR FQP FUNCTION REMAIN UNCHANGED
AND ARE STILL VALID.
E.G.
FQPWAW/D10MAR/CQLON/CQWAW/OLO
FQPWAW/D10MAR/CQMAD/CTWAW/OLO/RCH
FQP CALCULATION WITHOUT SPECIFYING A PARTICULAR TYPE OF FARE FAMILY
RESULTS INB DIVERSE RANGE OF ALL AVAILABLE TARIFFS INCLUDING
COMBINATIONS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT FARE FAMILIES.
FARE FAMILIES PNR PRICING
=========================
ALL AMADEUS TRANSACTIONS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR PNR CALCULATION SHALL
CONTINUE TO APPLY TO VAB (VALUE ADDED BUNDLE) FARE TYPES OF LOT.
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
IF SYSTEM DOES NOT OFFER THE SPECIFIC OPTION PREFERRED BY THE PASSENGER
IT IS POSSIBLE TO USE THE ENTRY WHICH WILL RETURNS THE EXPECTED ONE:
FXP/A-QSTDN0 REQUEST BY FARE BASIS FOR A RESPECTIVE FAMILY
FARE IN PNR, PRICING FOR SPECIFIC ECONOMY
STANDARD FAMILY FARE FOR GIVEN RBD;
FXP/A2-QFLXN0/A3-QSTDN0 REQUEST BY FARE BASIS FOR FARE FAMILY IN PNR,
PRICING FOR ECONOMY FLEX FARE FOR SEGMENT NBR 2
AND ECONOMY STANDARD FARE FAMILY FRO SEGMENT 3.
MAIN ATTRIBUTES FOR EACH VAB AND SSR FOR CHARGEABLE SERVICES
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E C O S A V E R
SERVICES INCLUDED:
*MILES
*1PC OF CARRY ON UP TO 8KG
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
SERVICES AT CHARGE:
*1PC OF BAGG UP TO 23KG FOR SALE AT ANY TIME BEFORE
DEPARTURE (EXLUDING CHECK-IN DESK)
SR PDVB/S2
*SEAT SELECTION
SR RQST
*ALL SERVICES OFFERED BY LO IN STANDARD CATALOGUE
REBOOKING&REFUND:
*RBK NOT PERMITTED
*REF NOT PERMITTED
E C O S T A N D
SERVICES INCLUDED:
*MILES
*1PC OF CARRY ON UP TO 8KG
*1PC OF BAGG UP TO 23KG
*SEAT SELECTION
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
SERVICES AT CHARGE:
*MEAL OFFERED IN PREMIUM CLASS
SR UPMS/S2
*UPGRADE TO PREMIUM COMPARTMENT NOT EARLIER THANER THAN
24H BEF DEPARTURE
SR UPSP-UPGR FROM ECOSTAND TO PREMIUM COMPARTMENT/S2
*ALL SERVICES OFFERED BY LO IN STANDARD CATALOGUE
REBOOKING&REFUND
*RBK AT CHARGE
*REF NOT PERMITTEDD
E C O F L E X
SERVICES INCLUDED:
*MILES
*1PC OF CARRY ON UP TO 8KG
*1PC OF BAGG UP TO 23KG
*SEAT SELECTION
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
SERVICES AT CHARGE:
*MEAL OFFERED IN PREMIUM CLASS
SR UPMF/S2
*UPGRADE TO PREMIUM COMPARTMENT NOT EARLIER THANER THAN
24H BEF DEPARTURE
SR UPVP-UPGR FROM ECOFLEX TO PREMIUM COMPARTMENT/S2
*ALL SERVICES OFFERED BY LO IN STANDARD CATALOGUE
REBOOKING&REFUND
*RBK PERMITTED
*REF AT CHARGE
P R E S T A N D
SERVICES INCLUDED:
*MILES
*1PC OF CARRY ON UP TO 8KG
*2PC OF BAGG UP TO 23KG
*SEAT SELECTION
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
SERVICES AT CHARGE:
*UPGRADE TO PREMIUM COMPARTMENT NOT EARLIER THANER THAN
24H BEF DEPARTURE
SR UPVC-UPGR FROM PRESTAND TO BUSINESS COMPARTMENT/S2
*BUSINESS LOUNGE ACCESS - AVAILABLE ONLY AT CHOPIN AIRPORT
IN WARSAW
IU LO NN1 LOUS WAWFRA/17OCT
*ALL SERVICES OFFERED BY LO IN STANDARD CATALOGUE
REBOOKING&REFUND
*RBK AT CHARGE
*REF NOT PERMITTED
P R E F L E X
SERVICES INCLUDED:
*MILES
*1PC OF CARRY ON UP TO 8KG
*2PC OF BAGG UP TO 23KG
*SEAT SELECTION
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
SERVICES AT CHARGE:
*UPGRADE TO PREMIUM COMPARTMENT NOT EARLIER THANER THAN
24H BEF DEPARTURE
SR UPVC-UPGR FROM PREFLEX TO BUSINESS COMPARTMENT/S2
*BUSINESS LOUNGE ACCESS - AVAILABLE ONLY AT CHOPIN AIRPORT
IN WARSAW
IU LO NN1 LOUS WAWFRA/17OCT
*ALL SERVICES OFFERED BY LO IN STANDARD CATALOGUE
REBOOKING&REFUND
*RBK PERMITTED
*REF PERMITTED
B U S T A N D
SERVICES INCLUDED:
*MILES
*2PC OF CARRY ON UP TO 9KG EACH
*2PC OF BAGG UP TO 32KG
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
*SEAT SELECTION
SERVICES AT CHARGE:
*ALL SERVICES OFFERED BY LO IN STANDARD CATALOGUE
REBOOKING&REFUND
*RBK PERMITTED
*REF AT CHARGE
B U F L E X
SERVICES INCLUDED:
*MILES
*2PC OF CARRY ON UP TO 9KG EACH
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FAMILY FARES VAB EN 8MAR17 0741Z
*2PC OF BAGG UP TO 32KG
*SEAT SELECTION
SERVICES AT CHARGE:
*ALL SERVICES OFFERED BY LO IN STANDARD CATALOGUE
REBOOKING&REFUND
*RBK PERMITTED
*REF PERMITTED
Jun 23, 2017, 9:52 am
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As usual you are able to pull off some magic Thanks.
Sadly, I am probably to o stupid to understand the rules. My fare basis is K1KWINK, so does not include SAV, yet when I called they want to charge for the ASR. Thanked no, as I am bidding for an upgrade, and hope this one will go through.
Thanks.Sadly, I am probably to o stupid to understand the rules. My fare basis is K1KWINK, so does not include SAV, yet when I called they want to charge for the ASR. Thanked no, as I am bidding for an upgrade, and hope this one will go through.