Near-collision on JFK runway, LH pilot rejected take-off while rolling down runway!
Jun 21, 2011, 12:42 am
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Near-collision on JFK runway, LH pilot rejected take-off while rolling down runway!
On Monday, a Lufthansa flight had a near-collision with another plane on the runway at JFK.
Apparently the LH plane was already rolling down the runway when the tower yelled at the pilot to abort take-off. The pilot rejected the take-off and avoided collision with another plane that took a wrong turn. The LH plane exited the runway with burning-hot brakes(according to the pilots).
I guess this is probably not that unusual at JFK?
However, I don't recall many incidents where the plane had to abruptly reject a take-off and come to a halt.
Here's the air traffice control recording of the incident.... the website didn't provide any details: http://www.liveatc.net/recordings.php (second recording, listed as "Re: Cancelled take off Clearance - JFK" dated 6/20)
Apparently the LH plane was already rolling down the runway when the tower yelled at the pilot to abort take-off. The pilot rejected the take-off and avoided collision with another plane that took a wrong turn. The LH plane exited the runway with burning-hot brakes(according to the pilots).
I guess this is probably not that unusual at JFK?
However, I don't recall many incidents where the plane had to abruptly reject a take-off and come to a halt. Here's the air traffice control recording of the incident.... the website didn't provide any details: http://www.liveatc.net/recordings.php (second recording, listed as "Re: Cancelled take off Clearance - JFK" dated 6/20)
Jun 21, 2011, 1:06 am
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Kinda scary stories.
But apparently, it's not that uncommon. I took a flight once, from LAX to NYC with a stop-over in Charlotte with US Airways... We almost touched ground, I was literally ready to "feel" the wheels touch the tarmac but suddenly, we felt the engines thrust to their max and we took off again.... Few seconds later we could hear the captain say "sorry about this, we could not land because a plane was crossing the runway..."
Errrr.... ok......
But apparently, it's not that uncommon. I took a flight once, from LAX to NYC with a stop-over in Charlotte with US Airways... We almost touched ground, I was literally ready to "feel" the wheels touch the tarmac but suddenly, we felt the engines thrust to their max and we took off again.... Few seconds later we could hear the captain say "sorry about this, we could not land because a plane was crossing the runway..."
Errrr.... ok......
Jun 21, 2011, 1:25 am
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looks like it was the MUC flight:
Code:
)>DOLH411/20JUN
DOLH411/20JUN
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * LH 411 -1 MO 20JUN
CITY INFO HOUR LOCAL)
JFK NEXT INFO WILL BE AT 1955
LEFT THE GATE 2020
TOOK OFF 2040
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0950 MUC
* 1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO * LH 411 -1 MO 20JUN
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
JFK 1745 MO FAJCDZYBMHQ/M 346 8:20
VWSL/M
MUC 0805 TU 8:20
)>dhlh411/20jun
DHLH411/20JUN
LH 0411 /20JUN
1.2334Z JFKSOLH 2JFK NEXT INFO WILL BE AT 1955
2.2336Z X FRA8DLH 2JFK LEFT THE GATE 1813
3.2336Z X FRA8DLH 2JFK AIRCRAFT RETURNED TO RAMP 1936
4.0114Z X JFKSOLH 2JFK LEFT THE GATE 2020
TOOK OFF 2040
5.0114Z X JFKSOLH 2JFK ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0950 MUC
6.0216Z X JFKSOLH 2JFK LEFT THE GATE 2020
TOOK OFF 2040
7.0216Z X JFKSOLH 2JFK ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0950 MUC
8.0216Z JFKSOLH 2JFK LEFT THE GATE 2020
TOOK OFF 2040
9.0216Z JFKSOLH 2JFK ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0950 MUC
>
Jun 21, 2011, 3:47 am
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There is an interesting discussion with some details:
http://www.liveatc.net/forums/atcavi...clearance-jfk/
Must have been quite serious.
http://www.liveatc.net/forums/atcavi...clearance-jfk/
Must have been quite serious.
Jun 21, 2011, 7:54 am
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Apparently it was EgyptAir: http://avherald.com/h?article=43e82b1d&opt=0
Jun 21, 2011, 9:14 am
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EgyptAir's 777 apparently took a wrong turn and headed face-to-face with the Lufthansa A340 that was on a take-off roll.
Just imagine what would have happened if the JFK tower didn't spot the error in time to halt the A340 from taking off. The LH pilots probably wouldn't realize it until they were ready to rotate because it was at night. A340 colliding with a 777 at take-off speed? The only word that comes to my mind is "Tenerife"
Just imagine what would have happened if the JFK tower didn't spot the error in time to halt the A340 from taking off. The LH pilots probably wouldn't realize it until they were ready to rotate because it was at night. A340 colliding with a 777 at take-off speed? The only word that comes to my mind is "Tenerife"
Jun 21, 2011, 9:27 am
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