Finished the HON LHPJ run.. an AMAZING experiece
May 28, 2010, 2:22 am
#31
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In LHPJ, it comes to only being breakeven if at all..so u pay 7k euros, and at the end u get approx tht value back in some way or the other.. I am not even computing the cost of wastage and impact on environment as noted below by other Fter's..
Ofcourse folks hv their own views and the above is my 2 cents
May 28, 2010, 3:39 am
#32
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In LHPJ, it comes to only being breakeven if at all..so u pay 7k euros, and at the end u get approx tht value back in some way or the other.. I am not even computing the cost of wastage and impact on environment as noted below by other Fter's..
Ofcourse folks hv their own views and the above is my 2 cents
Ofcourse folks hv their own views and the above is my 2 cents
In this case it could be, because it depends how you plan on using the miles.Here's an example for you:
135k miles + 667EUR Bucharest to the US in December for 2pax in C vs. 6100EUR to fly on LH. Don't give me crap that I can fly Turkish or take positioning flights to Italy.
May 28, 2010, 4:03 am
#34
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But around 3k p.p to the west coast? Anyway, it really depends if someone would spend that money anyway, rather then a 700 EUR economy ticket for example - so, like it was said numerous times, depending on how you value your miles :-)
May 28, 2010, 4:26 am
#35
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How about to Boston? Without making me sleep in ZRH on the way back or have more than one connection, please.
I agree with Lack, it depends how you value your miles. I find these a good value, others might think Y to the East coast is acceptable, I used to fly that route a lot and I was fine with it, however around X-mas, I'd rather not.
I agree with Lack, it depends how you value your miles. I find these a good value, others might think Y to the East coast is acceptable, I used to fly that route a lot and I was fine with it, however around X-mas, I'd rather not.
May 28, 2010, 4:38 am
#36
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Single connection each way in FRA/MUC/ZRH - the same as any award travel :-).
May 28, 2010, 5:21 am
#37
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Why?
- you bank a lot of miles you can't burn quickly and M&M may change their terms
- you assume C award availability, which is terrible especially to N America in time you want to travel (sure the HON award booking guarantee kicks in if you go all the way)
If you want to buy miles at a decent ratio, go for US Air DM or bmi DC, buy and burn and be done with it. This is the reason I sit on 750k M&M miles because I did all my earn and burn on US and BD's FFP.
With F awards (around christmas too) 
May 28, 2010, 5:47 am
#38
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And I guess most of ur miles accural was on travel which was necessary because of work or otherwise, or on CC's spends.. which means whtever miles u managed to accrue with any ffp giving u free flights were a bonus for u from the start as u mostly never spent a lot extra only for elite status or miles and hence ur cost was 0 or nearly negligble and hence breakeven was similarly negligible...^
May 28, 2010, 5:50 am
#39
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Just add a 123$ return with Jet Blue from JFK to BOS. My point is that the € for miles argument is very weak to justify a LHPJ run.
Why?
- you bank a lot of miles you can't burn quickly and M&M may change their terms
- you assume C award availability, which is terrible especially to N America in time you want to travel (sure the HON award booking guarantee kicks in if you go all the way)
If you want to buy miles at a decent ratio, go for US Air DM or bmi DC, buy and burn and be done with it. This is the reason I sit on 750k M&M miles because I did all my earn and burn on US and BD's FFP. With F awards (around christmas too)
Why?
- you bank a lot of miles you can't burn quickly and M&M may change their terms
- you assume C award availability, which is terrible especially to N America in time you want to travel (sure the HON award booking guarantee kicks in if you go all the way)
If you want to buy miles at a decent ratio, go for US Air DM or bmi DC, buy and burn and be done with it. This is the reason I sit on 750k M&M miles because I did all my earn and burn on US and BD's FFP.
With F awards (around christmas too) Actually, I had no problems burning LH miles quick, efficient and in masses using the SEN waitlist in C most cases. The only issue I have with LH are the inconvenient stopover rules and the outrageous YQ for connection flights.
BD and especially US are right now certainly the way to go.
May 28, 2010, 6:42 am
#41
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I didn't know you could earn US miles from flying. I thought people only bought them.
Miles earned are based on the actual miles flown.
LH: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...lufthansa.html
LX: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...nce_swiss.html
Miles earned are based on the actual miles flown.
LH: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...lufthansa.html
LX: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...nce_swiss.html
Last edited by NewbieRunner; May 28, 2010 at 6:55 am Reason: grammar!
May 28, 2010, 6:46 am
#42
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But I thought there might actually be a way to earn them!Miles earned are based on the actually miles flown.
LH: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...lufthansa.html
LX: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...nce_swiss.html
LH: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...lufthansa.html
LX: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...nce_swiss.html
May 28, 2010, 6:49 am
#43
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May 28, 2010, 6:55 am
#44
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I didn't know you could earn US miles from flying. I thought people only bought them.
Miles earned are based on the actually miles flown.
LH: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...lufthansa.html
LX: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...nce_swiss.html
Miles earned are based on the actually miles flown.
LH: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...lufthansa.html
LX: http://www.usairways.com/en-US/divid...nce_swiss.html
Nice CC bonuses in North America add to this experience as well !
May 28, 2010, 7:04 am
#45
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I guess BD is the program to go for once I hit 100K on M&M, since 95% of my travel is intra-Europe.