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dankyone Jun 21, 2006 11:42 pm

Just got an invite to Caesars "Bacchanal" on August 5th...it is very vague but it is an elaborate looking thing, very different from the constant mailings. It is similar to what they send for NYE. Does anyone know what this is?

FTraveler Jun 22, 2006 1:47 am


Originally Posted by dankyone
Just got an invite to Caesars "Bacchanal" on August 5th...it is very vague but it is an elaborate looking thing, very different from the constant mailings. It is similar to what they send for NYE. Does anyone know what this is?

I received the Bacchanal invite as well. For years Caesars had a Bacchanal restaurant which was a prixe fixe affair and featured many gourmet courses, wine, and shoulder massages by young ladies in veils. It was closed down in the 80s or 90s. I assume they are going to re-create the experience in celebration of Caesars' 40th anniversary.

NWsilverflyer Jun 22, 2006 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by ExpoTrac
Just back from a week at Caesars - they have removed many of the BJ tables (near the forum shop entrance), and I could only find 1 table with a $10 limit during the week. Was staying 2 days on comp gambler rate, and got a great room in Augutus tower, and then had to downgrade to Forum tower for the rest of the week on a paid rate. The staff seems really confused by the promotions/rates/Reward Credits rules. Got different answers each time I questioned the front desk and Total Rewards folks about earning/using credits, and trying to redeem some of the offers they had sent me.
Interesting that they sent me a promotion for a free Coach handbag a few months ago, and it didn't require earning any points to redeem. Just received a note they "extended" this promotion, but you now have to earn 500 base reward points before you can redeem. One TW rep tried to tell me I had to earn credits, but I showed them the card and got the bag without a problem.

Also interesting that I just completed an online survey asking about all the different rewards programs offered by casinos and how I perceived them and the comps they offered....which was not related to my stay there, came from a random survey group I participate in. One of the casinos must know their program is not up to par...hopefully Harrah's.

Considering the IP didn't have any $10 tables last month, I'm not too surprised the same is true of Caesars. :)

QuietLion Jun 23, 2006 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by dankyone
Just got an invite to Caesars "Bacchanal" on August 5th...it is very vague but it is an elaborate looking thing, very different from the constant mailings. It is similar to what they send for NYE. Does anyone know what this is?

Free dinner.

QL

BiziBB Dec 19, 2006 9:41 pm

Hi, just a bump to ask how the news of Harrah's management acceptance of a $90/share takeover bid by Apollo/Texas Pacific private equity partnership could affect the company's hotels on the Strip.

Could some parts be split, sold or spun off?
Cheers. ^

dhuey Dec 19, 2006 11:40 pm


Originally Posted by BiziBB (Post 6875800)
Hi, just a bump to ask how the news of Harrah's management acceptance of a $90/share takeover bid by Apollo/Texas Pacific private equity partnership could affect the company's hotels on the Strip.

Could some parts be split, sold or spun off?
Cheers. ^

Possibly, but keep in mind that the merger is expected to take at least a year. I guess it's all of those gaming commissions having to sign off on the deal that will take so long. If there are any assets sales or spin offs, they will probably not happen any time soon.

http://investor.harrahs.com/phoenix....557&highlight=

baccarat_king Dec 20, 2006 9:46 am


Originally Posted by BiziBB (Post 6875800)
Could some parts be split, sold or spun off?

I "think" they will shed some of the non Vegas/AC properties.

My 1st prediction is that they will dump Caesars Indiana --- it is supposed to be rebranded as Horseshoe (what I have heard) --- and doesn't really fit the upscale Caesars image (especially with the upgrades in Las Vegas and AC [Pier etc. etc.] ) --- and personally, the place is just so darn strange (IMHO).

But, they do still have awesome Video Poker, for a Harrahs Property --- and 20x odds at Dice... so, if you are in the area definitely check it out !

aceman Dec 20, 2006 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by baccarat_king (Post 6878297)
20x odds at Dice... so, if you are in the area definitely check it out !

mmmmm 20x odds

Should have gone to O'shays.

$1 pass 100x odds baby!

baccarat_king Dec 20, 2006 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by aceman (Post 6881841)
mmmmm 20x odds

Should have gone to O'shays.

$1 pass 100x odds baby!


ya'know aceman --- are you always trying to one-up me ;)

yeah, we also had 100x odds in Rising Sun, Indiana at Grand Victoria (yes, it is also a Hyatt) --- and double deck pitch with good rules, and 6 deck with good rules and late surrender (but, if you re-call... folks in Indiana like to split those face cards... :D :D)

Anyway.... still doesn't beat a good hit and run at the Big Baccarat table at RIO !

My host sent me an email with my play for the 3 days --- RIO is pretty funny --
150/:9
505 win on tbls

the translation : $150 average bet for 9 minutes of play $505 win on a table game.

NOW that is what I call HIT and RUN ! ^

kaukau Dec 21, 2006 10:31 am

Hi, b_k!

Casino Royale also offers $1 pass, 100x odds, on craps!

aceman Dec 21, 2006 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by baccarat_king (Post 6881939)
ya'know aceman --- are you always trying to one-up me ;)

yeah, we also had 100x odds in Rising Sun, Indiana at Grand Victoria (yes, it is also a Hyatt) --- and double deck pitch with good rules, and 6 deck with good rules and late surrender (but, if you re-call... folks in Indiana like to split those face cards... :D :D)

Anyway.... still doesn't beat a good hit and run at the Big Baccarat table at RIO !

My host sent me an email with my play for the 3 days --- RIO is pretty funny --
150/:9
505 win on tbls

the translation : $150 average bet for 9 minutes of play $505 win on a table game.

NOW that is what I call HIT and RUN ! ^

That guy was such a donkey, he could have given us a couple more minutes on the clock!

I think that worked out at 174 Tier points since thats what I seem to have right now.

So that could suggest that playing 206 minutes of baccarat at $150 a hand should be enough to get platinum... Hmmm interesting especially since you could easily get away with not playing for about 15-20 of those minutes.... hmmmm!

Doppy Dec 27, 2006 7:58 pm

Agree that Harrah's has had a negative effect on the Caesars Entertainment properties. They took a high and some higher end properties and turned them into grinder joints. If the buyout goes through, it will be interesting to see whether the management and management philosophy stay the same or not. I don't know anyone who works or vacations in Vegas who has been happy about the changes instituted at the Caesars properties.

tev9999 Dec 28, 2006 10:07 am


Originally Posted by kaukau (Post 6884771)
Hi, b_k!

Casino Royale also offers $1 pass, 100x odds, on craps!

Last I was there is was $2 or $3 with 100X odds. Genuine duct tape holding the felt together too. It was also impossible to get near a table.

Doppy Feb 25, 2007 5:07 pm

I thought the claims that Harrahs hates table game players were a bit overblown, until I recently found out that for the same craps play, Harrahs comps 10% of what the old Connection club used to. What Connection would have given you $50 in comps for, Total Rewards gives you about $5.

Totally unbelievable. Harrahs cleared out all of the good video poker machines at Caesards, and now finding out how they (don't) comp on the tables, I won't be returning to any of their properties. I hope this buyout goes through and they do something to restore the Caesars Entertainment properties. Both Total Rewards and the lousy customer service are have driven me and a lot of other people away.

tev9999 Feb 25, 2007 6:06 pm

I hope they don't screw up the Barbary Coast since it becomes Bill's Gamblin Hall and Saloon this week.


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