Fee/Fuel Sticker Shock

Old Aug 4, 22, 5:50 am
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Fee/Fuel Sticker Shock

After a couple years of going nowhere I am now thinking about using my KE miles.

First shock was availability in March is much less than before. Very little P or E.
Second shock was it looks like a new (devalued) chart will come in March, 2023, so best I use the miles before then.
Third shock is the fuel charge. I expected one, but 125,000+$800 for a roundtrip Japan-Seattle is about double the fees I expected.

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Old Aug 5, 22, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by JapanFlyerT View Post
After a couple years of going nowhere I am now thinking about

I think that's just the nature of traveling post-2020.

US based airlines are asking 3-500k miles RT for that.
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Old Aug 5, 22, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by samwise6222 View Post
I think that's just the nature of traveling post-2020.

US based airlines are asking 3-500k miles RT for that.
Not always. AA redemptions on AAdvantage partner carriers have fixed redemption rates. Here's a TYO-SEA roundtrip in March for 140,000 AA miles plus $50 in taxes. The outbound is in JL Business; the return (which requires a connection in LAX) is in JL First.

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Old Aug 5, 22, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by samwise6222 View Post
I think that's just the nature of traveling post-2020.

US based airlines are asking 3-500k miles RT for that.
You are right in that (most) business class seats are high, but if I stoop to economy, roundtrip is 70,000-80,000 miles +$70 on United/Star Alliance. The mileage on KE is about the same, but fuel/fees again is $800.

I might bite the bullet though if only to have a chance to burn the miles before the March 2023 devaluation.
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Old Aug 7, 22, 9:55 pm
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Even cash - going to Bangkok for my bday in October. ICN-BKK round trip. The actual fare is like 400 something, and the taxes and fuel fees alone are 300 something. But, ultimately, for miles it's either use them or don't. And calculate the cash price of the same flight on KE in the same class. I can guarantee that in business, even if you spend the miles AND account for their cash value PLUS fuel feesl, it's still cheaper than if you paid cash for it haha.
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