Operational Upgrades
Jan 27, 2004 | 4:41 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lallyr:
What were these bigger seats used for? Where abouts in the plane were they?
Does KLM still any Airplanes with these seats. So basically were they WBC seats without the service? Or were they WBC seats with service when they had paying customers and without the service for the Elites?
Must have been fun being a Elite a few years back then?</font>
What were these bigger seats used for? Where abouts in the plane were they?
Does KLM still any Airplanes with these seats. So basically were they WBC seats without the service? Or were they WBC seats with service when they had paying customers and without the service for the Elites?
Must have been fun being a Elite a few years back then?</font>
It was common to bump up elite members to those seats, you basically got a WBC product without the C class food !!
Jan 27, 2004 | 7:00 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by monahos:
Previously, I remember a number of times when all paying WBC pax would be moved upstairs, and elites moved to the main deck biz seats, with Y service. This mostly on 744 service from the Far East, on routes with more tour groups than premium traffic (ICN, KIX, NGO, among others). This practice seems to have disappeared with the shrunken WBC cabins
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Previously, I remember a number of times when all paying WBC pax would be moved upstairs, and elites moved to the main deck biz seats, with Y service. This mostly on 744 service from the Far East, on routes with more tour groups than premium traffic (ICN, KIX, NGO, among others). This practice seems to have disappeared with the shrunken WBC cabins
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My op-upgrade score is 2 in the last year. One SFO-AMS on KL and one AMS-KUL on MH, both being GE.
Jan 27, 2004 | 7:17 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lallyr:
Hasn't that area now got Economy seating? & is that the select seating area now? </font>
Hasn't that area now got Economy seating? & is that the select seating area now? </font>
Does anybody remember how many WBC seats were in the section ?
Jan 27, 2004 | 7:31 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lallyr:
Hasn't that area now got Economy seating? & is that the select seating area now? </font>
Hasn't that area now got Economy seating? & is that the select seating area now? </font>
-- Dambus
Edited: Corrected - thanks Papa Hotel
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Jan 27, 2004 | 2:31 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dambus:
Yes and yes. The section runs from 9ABC to 18ABC and 11DE to 16DE.</font>
Yes and yes. The section runs from 9ABC to 18ABC and 11DE to 16DE.</font>
Jan 28, 2004 | 3:07 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">posted by phb:My score on op upgrades after three years of (earned) PE is a big fat zero. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?</font>
When this subject has been discussed before it has been suggested that those departing ex UK airports handled by Servisair (ie all except LHR) are at a disadvantage with op-ups ex AMS. Servisair staff are not authorised to op up pax and by the time you arrive in AMS on your feeder flight, Schiphol check-in have selected some PEs ahead of you. Unsure if this is remotely true but certainly might explain the high numbers of UK FD members who have been passed over for the elusive KLM operational upgrade.
Jan 28, 2004 | 12:13 pm
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Wife and I travelling together have had one from AMS to IAH and one AMS - LAX in 4 years. At the time we were both GE flying out of MME and on each occasion we were upgraded at the gate at Schipol. Both trips were in summer peak periods (July).
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Jan 28, 2004 | 1:48 pm
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Was Royal Wing in 1995/1996/1997 and had lots of upgrades. I remember AMS - CPT, CPT - AMS, AMS - SFO, AMS - BKK and SIN - AMS, but there were more.
Was downgraded to Silver Wing and later Gold Elite and only had one upgrade SIN - AMS last year. Now I am a Platinum Elite again and looking forward to more upgrades.
Was downgraded to Silver Wing and later Gold Elite and only had one upgrade SIN - AMS last year. Now I am a Platinum Elite again and looking forward to more upgrades.
Feb 4, 2004 | 2:13 pm
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As a RW, I scored over 90% (yes, really) on the AMS-JNB route over a period of several years. On top of that, I was once allocated a seat in the nose cone cabin, with Y class service.
I can't say if the chances of an upgrade have declined, as all of my JNB flights the last couple of years have been in C. I did however receive two upgrades to the wonderful Europe Select class from AMS to CPH and CPH to AMS last year. In both cases Y was overbooked.
johan
I can't say if the chances of an upgrade have declined, as all of my JNB flights the last couple of years have been in C. I did however receive two upgrades to the wonderful Europe Select class from AMS to CPH and CPH to AMS last year. In both cases Y was overbooked.
johan