Inside info on new FD program
Sep 14, 2002 | 7:53 pm
#32
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Wait a minute, I'm feeling a little giddy. If I just comped royal wing and got 600K points (supposed to post any day 
), does this mean I will end up with 600K x 1.8 conversion rate = > 1 million miles!!!
say it is so. I may start to fly KLM for real.
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), does this mean I will end up with 600K x 1.8 conversion rate = > 1 million miles!!!say it is so. I may start to fly KLM for real.
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Sep 15, 2002 | 5:54 am
#33
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by MilesToGoBeforeISleep:
Does this mean I will end up with 600K x 1.8 conversion rate = > 1 million miles!!!
Say it is so. I may start to fly KLM for real.
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Does this mean I will end up with 600K x 1.8 conversion rate = > 1 million miles!!!
Say it is so. I may start to fly KLM for real.
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Sep 15, 2002 | 10:38 pm
#34
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
Many of us think it is 'so'.
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Many of us think it is 'so'.
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Edited to add link.
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Sep 16, 2002 | 7:22 am
#35
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A conversion factor of 1.8 sounds great. On the other hand, I think that unfortunately it's realistic to believe that we will have to start paying double miles to get the flights we want. I doubt very much that they will give a 100% platinum bonus while retaining the current policy of expanded award availability for RoyalWings. Likely, they will argue that the purpose of the 100% bonus is for platinum members to afford paying double miles for "anytime awards." While it will be neutral for future miles earned by platinum members it will effectively depreciate the value of any current (comped) miles.
Sep 16, 2002 | 10:12 am
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Please explain (no, my surname is not Hanson 
) :
KL have one major disadvantage: they are based in a relatively small country and are thus crucially dependent on transfer traffic. This necessarily hampers their ability to compete at the top end of the market, as money-no-object flyers in the large European countries will tend on the whole to prefer direct flights. The sensible thing to do is to target the middle-rank market. Their business class product (decent but lagging behind the competition) and pricing policy (rather lower) are in line with that.
Now, you would expect that the FFP would be in line with their customer base. That is on the whole true of the existing FD programme: a frequent flyer programme that allows access to top elite status for middle-rank frequent flyers. So, why destroy that competitive advantage by making access to top elite status much more difficult?
) :KL have one major disadvantage: they are based in a relatively small country and are thus crucially dependent on transfer traffic. This necessarily hampers their ability to compete at the top end of the market, as money-no-object flyers in the large European countries will tend on the whole to prefer direct flights. The sensible thing to do is to target the middle-rank market. Their business class product (decent but lagging behind the competition) and pricing policy (rather lower) are in line with that.
Now, you would expect that the FFP would be in line with their customer base. That is on the whole true of the existing FD programme: a frequent flyer programme that allows access to top elite status for middle-rank frequent flyers. So, why destroy that competitive advantage by making access to top elite status much more difficult?
Sep 16, 2002 | 12:47 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NickB:
So, why destroy that competitive advantage by making access to top elite status much more difficult?</font>
So, why destroy that competitive advantage by making access to top elite status much more difficult?</font>
johan