SW Lounge access
Jan 7, 2002 | 7:17 am
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SW Lounge access
As I do think, that KLM matches me to SW, I do have a couple of questions about SW / Business Class Lounges.
I am travelling in almost only in Y, and for me Lounge access is a huge benefit compared to DL skymiles.
1. Is there a list with all of KLMs C - Class lounges?
2. Is it possible to enter NW lounges?
greetings
andreas
I am travelling in almost only in Y, and for me Lounge access is a huge benefit compared to DL skymiles.
1. Is there a list with all of KLMs C - Class lounges?
2. Is it possible to enter NW lounges?
greetings
andreas
Jan 7, 2002 | 7:33 am
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I'm not aware of a list of KLM lounges...perhaps someone else can find one!
As for NW lounges, as long as you are flying KLM/NW internationally yoi have access to NW lounges. Domestic US not allowed, although you might get access if the domestic leg is part of an international itinerary.
As for NW lounges, as long as you are flying KLM/NW internationally yoi have access to NW lounges. Domestic US not allowed, although you might get access if the domestic leg is part of an international itinerary.
Jan 7, 2002 | 8:19 am
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I agree on Scotsflyer.
SW card gets you access to AMS Biz-Lounges with any KL/NW/CO ticket of that day (departure only). In the US and international they'll want to see any intl.-departure KL/NW/CO ticket for that day in the NW Lounges. Should work at CO lounges, too...
SW card gets you access to AMS Biz-Lounges with any KL/NW/CO ticket of that day (departure only). In the US and international they'll want to see any intl.-departure KL/NW/CO ticket for that day in the NW Lounges. Should work at CO lounges, too...
Jan 7, 2002 | 8:21 am
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Actually I think KL only has own lounges in AMS, internationally they use partner lounges. Correct me, if I'm wrong.
NW has a list of their lounges on their website.
NW has a list of their lounges on their website.
Jan 7, 2002 | 8:57 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ralfkrippner:
Actually I think KL only has own lounges in AMS, internationally they use partner lounges. Correct me, if I'm wrong.</font>
Actually I think KL only has own lounges in AMS, internationally they use partner lounges. Correct me, if I'm wrong.</font>
Jan 7, 2002 | 9:26 am
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Flown JFK-AMS Dec16, departure out of terminal 4. Only NW lounge (asked at NW check-in and looked out for signs). Maybe they have closed it - why should they have two lounges there?
Jan 7, 2002 | 9:36 am
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KLM gives lounge invitation cards at check-in to SW's at a number of airports. Perhaps we could get a list going? In the past year:
In:
- LHR (own lounge)
- CDG1 (Salon Icare)
- NGO (common lounge)
Out (no invitation, I didn't enquire)
- GVA (hardly any lounges anyway, even on Swissair C)
- NRT
- KIX
I get into NW Worldclubs another way, so I don't know about NW lounge access worldwide.
IMO this is one of the better benefits of FD being a two-tier elite program, as third-tier elites in other programs hardly ever get lounge access.
In:
- LHR (own lounge)
- CDG1 (Salon Icare)
- NGO (common lounge)
Out (no invitation, I didn't enquire)
- GVA (hardly any lounges anyway, even on Swissair C)
- NRT
- KIX
I get into NW Worldclubs another way, so I don't know about NW lounge access worldwide.
IMO this is one of the better benefits of FD being a two-tier elite program, as third-tier elites in other programs hardly ever get lounge access.
Jan 7, 2002 | 10:34 am
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Back in the days KLM operated its own Rembrandt lounge at JFK, I don`t know, what happened to that grand old lounge.
Beside that KL don`t operate any Lounge in the US, as far as I know.They certainly use WC`s and some other lounges on individual contracts, like the BA lounge at MIA or the Air France/Sky Team lounge at YUL.
Before they cancelled the ATL nonstop ex Schiphol, you got an invitation to the Delta International Biz Elite Lounge at ATL.
Beside that KL don`t operate any Lounge in the US, as far as I know.They certainly use WC`s and some other lounges on individual contracts, like the BA lounge at MIA or the Air France/Sky Team lounge at YUL.
Before they cancelled the ATL nonstop ex Schiphol, you got an invitation to the Delta International Biz Elite Lounge at ATL.
Jan 7, 2002 | 11:00 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Threy:
Back in the days KLM operated its own Rembrandt lounge at JFK, I don`t know, what happened to that grand old lounge.</font>
Back in the days KLM operated its own Rembrandt lounge at JFK, I don`t know, what happened to that grand old lounge.</font>
Jan 7, 2002 | 11:07 am
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Anandrag, I am not sure about it, I had to cancel my NY trip last year.
The last time I was in JFK with KL before was in the last century, it was open back in those days.
Ralf mentioned, that he used the NW World club just recently.
Ralf, can you provide some more information on JFK...
The last time I was in JFK with KL before was in the last century, it was open back in those days.
Ralf mentioned, that he used the NW World club just recently.
Ralf, can you provide some more information on JFK...
Jan 7, 2002 | 1:55 pm
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In JFK you use the temporary WorldClub which is a roped off section of a balcony on the second level of the new terminal. It is outside security and all the way on the other side from the KL gates, so nowadays considering that you never know how long the line might be at security, you can't hang out there too long.
Jan 8, 2002 | 2:08 am
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Yes, that's it exactly. Has KLM moved to another terminal recently? Never been at JFK before my Dec trip. Maybe this KLM lounge has been in another terminal? Terminal 4 seemed to be new built.
BTW: Found a KLM Biz-Lounge at Dubai in the NW-Worldclubs list.
BTW: Found a KLM Biz-Lounge at Dubai in the NW-Worldclubs list.