Timetable Error or Correct Equipment?
May 24, 2006 | 2:38 pm
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Timetable Error or Correct Equipment?
Hi,
I just booked a return ticket from Houston to London, connecting in AMS (CO to KLM). As I would expect, my flight from AMS - LHR is on a 737 (type unspecified). However, the itinerary shows a 767 on the return LHR - AMS (Sept 9th). I didn't think that KLM would fly a widebody longhaul plane on such a short flight, so I went to NWA.com to book the same ticket again to see the equipment type. There the flight came up as an A330-200! Which, if any, are correct?
The reason I ask is that I am ticketed in J, so I would MUCH prefer to sit in the B767 / A332 comfortable chair vs. a B737 "Europe Select" seat!
Thanks for the help.
-CLG
I just booked a return ticket from Houston to London, connecting in AMS (CO to KLM). As I would expect, my flight from AMS - LHR is on a 737 (type unspecified). However, the itinerary shows a 767 on the return LHR - AMS (Sept 9th). I didn't think that KLM would fly a widebody longhaul plane on such a short flight, so I went to NWA.com to book the same ticket again to see the equipment type. There the flight came up as an A330-200! Which, if any, are correct?
The reason I ask is that I am ticketed in J, so I would MUCH prefer to sit in the B767 / A332 comfortable chair vs. a B737 "Europe Select" seat!
Thanks for the help.
-CLG
May 24, 2006 | 5:42 pm
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The C class seating on the B767 AMS-LHR-AMS flights is exactly the same as used on the long haul routes. They use this a/c on the AMS-LHR route to increase fleet utilisation, rather than having the a/c sat on the ground at Schiphol in between long haul runs.
I'm on a B767 AMS-LHR in August, so the extra large seat (for a European business class flight) should be nice, but I'm not expecting WBC levels of service.
I'm on a B767 AMS-LHR in August, so the extra large seat (for a European business class flight) should be nice, but I'm not expecting WBC levels of service.
May 24, 2006 | 6:36 pm
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I am pretty much subscribed to that flight (KL1008).
This flight has been mentioned quite extensively on here. It isnt on the system for passengers, its purpose is to serve a large cargo contract KLM have.
This flight has been mentioned quite extensively on here. It isnt on the system for passengers, its purpose is to serve a large cargo contract KLM have.
May 24, 2006 | 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by CLG
so I went to NWA.com to book the same ticket again to see the equipment type. There the flight came up as an A330-200!
[KVS Availability Tool 2.2.0/Platinum - SRS: Timetable]
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AMS Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM] LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] WED 06 Sep 2006 / SAT 09 Sep 2006 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency/Duration --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ------------------ KL 1007 AMS 08:25 LHR 09:00 767 0 --34-67 01:35 KL 1008 LHR 09:55 AMS 12:15 767 0 --34-67 01:20
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AMS Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM] LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] TUE 05 Sep 2006 / FRI 08 Sep 2006 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency/Duration --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ------------------ KL 1007 AMS 08:25 LHR 09:00 332 0 12--5-- 01:35 KL 1008 LHR 09:55 AMS 12:15 332 0 12--5-- 01:20
May 25, 2006 | 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by stut
And for the other part of the question... KL663 and KL664 are operated by PrivatAir on behalf on KLM, in a 737 BBJ in all business class configuration.
Business must be too good!
Johan
May 25, 2006 | 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by Mofomat
The C class seating on the B767 AMS-LHR-AMS flights is exactly the same as used on the long haul routes. They use this a/c on the AMS-LHR route to increase fleet utilisation, rather than having the a/c sat on the ground at Schiphol in between long haul runs.
That's why LH flies A300s to LHR from FRA, for example, or why you see lots of A321s from a variety of airlines there.
May 25, 2006 | 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by alex0683de
That's part of it. The other issue is that LHR is slot-controlled, which means extra flights have to be approved, so the only easy way to increase the amount of available seats is to upgrade existing flights to bigger aircraft.
That's why LH flies A300s to LHR from FRA, for example, or why you see lots of A321s from a variety of airlines there.
That's why LH flies A300s to LHR from FRA, for example, or why you see lots of A321s from a variety of airlines there.
A 737-900 would be of better usage if you were after passenger numbers vs cost of flying it.
Instead it's the cargo which keeps widebodies on this flight, not passenger numbers.
May 25, 2006 | 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by alex0683de
That's why LH flies A300s to LHR from FRA, for example, or why you see lots of A321s from a variety of airlines there.
I think it is quite common on larger intra-European routes. I've seen the LH A300s in CPH a few times too. When SK is on strike they fly them to OSL too.
