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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 10:20 am
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Question PE lounge access changes?

Apologies if someone else picked up on this but I couldn't find anything in search. Latest edition of FD news

Once KLM joins the SkyTeam alliance, more than 400 SkyTeam lounges of all SkyTeam partners will become available for Platinum and Gold Elite members. Platinum and Gold Elite members will then enjoy lounge access to KLM lounges when flying KLM, or a KLM or SkyTeam airline partner, and to SkyTeam lounges when flying KLM or a SkyTeam airline partner.
Please let this just be poor wording, but that's an added clause surely? We get access to KLM lounges even when not flying KLM?
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 10:51 am
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I guess this is deliberate, and means that PE access to lounges will only be when flying KL or Skyteam. Part of the overall process of reducing the benefits of FD - so that when FD is subsumed into the AF programme (with its miserable benefits), it isn't such a huge shock.

I'd expect to see a lot more of this sort of thing over the next year - small and largely unpublicised reductions in benefits.

As someone else has said, why can't we have a *A service from NCL??
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 1:09 pm
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It says when KL join Skyteam, when is that supposed to be happenning ?.

They certainly haven't stopped it yet as I got in the lounge at HKG a few weeks ago while flying on SQ.

It would be a(nother) blow for sure.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 2:20 pm
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See posts #10 and #17 in this thread.

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Joe Brancatelli wrote in his newsletter some weeks ago that the date for KL, CO and NW joining skyteam will be Sept. 13th.
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 5:24 am
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Thanks Johan, this rang the faintest of bells, but I couldnt find it.

Phew!

(for the moment!).
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 8:11 am
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Thanks for the heads up, Johan !

Always good to get help from Flyertalkers who usually know more than average FD staff

BTW, used the ECC lounge at FRA three times the last month while flying LH and migrating from the overcrowded Senator lounge to less crowded United Red Carpet Club.
Absolutely no problem at all, staff will write down your PE number and that`s it !
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by Threy
BTW, used the ECC lounge at FRA three times the last month while flying LH and migrating from the overcrowded Senator lounge to less crowded United Red Carpet Club.
Absolutely no problem at all, staff will write down your PE number and that`s it !
What and where is this ?. Going through FRA SAT & SUN and would greatly appreciate an alternative to those awful SEN lounges .
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 11:50 am
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Man Flyer,

here is a map of FRA with the ECC lounge location:

http://www.frankfurt-airport.de/cms/...minal_1_eb.htm
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:07 am
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Originally Posted by PeteW
I guess this is deliberate, and means that PE access to lounges will only be when flying KL or Skyteam. Part of the overall process of reducing the benefits of FD - so that when FD is subsumed into the AF programme (with its miserable benefits), it isn't such a huge shock.

I'd expect to see a lot more of this sort of thing over the next year - small and largely unpublicised reductions in benefits.

As someone else has said, why can't we have a *A service from NCL??
I believe that was me..... but i am sure that i am not the only one who would love for this to happen.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 2:25 am
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Well, there's always the daily 'Auf Wiedersehen Pet' NCL-DUS LH service.

Not that that's brilliant for connections...
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 3:42 am
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Well, there's always the daily 'Auf Wiedersehen Pet' NCL-DUS LH service.

Not that that's brilliant for connections...

Like a few of my geordie pals say "That flight is as usefull as a Ashtray on a motorbike"
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Threy
Man Flyer,

here is a map of FRA with the ECC lounge location:

http://www.frankfurt-airport.de/cms/...minal_1_eb.htm
Thanks for that Threy, I'll check it out this weekend.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by PeteW
As someone else has said, why can't we have a *A service from NCL??
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347577

Hope you all bothered to get the status match
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347577

Hope you all bothered to get the status match

I did indeed

But i think it will just be a LH type of service to NCL. Maybe one daily flight in the afternoon which wont be any good for connections.

The truth is the we all fly KLM because they offer the best connections and we know that if we are delayed on the way to AMS then the next NCL flight wont be more then a few hours away.
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