KLM seat map suddenly unavailable
#16
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However, in Y, passengers travelling on "light" fares and with no status can only select seats prior to OLCI for a fee, so most don't. Those passengers won't have an assigned seat, even though they are reflected in seat availability. A plance with no availability in Y, prior to OLCI opening, could still have loads of seats unassigned, and passengers on a light fare can still be tempted to pay for advance seat selection.
I do agree with you that this is clearly stupid. Even if I can't select a different seat, I'd still like to just be able to view the seatmap. I see no advantage for AF/KLM to block access, but I've experienced this annoying "feature" myself as well.
#17
Join Date: May 2009
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I am of the opinion that locking it out for unassigned users is fine (albeit somewhat annoying) but once I have assigned myself a seat I should be able to change it until such time as the flight departs.
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Just a guess, but I assume it is closed after X% of seats have been assigned, not sold. In J, there usually isn't a difference - most seats sold will have a seat assignment as well.
However, in Y, passengers travelling on "light" fares and with no status can only select seats prior to OLCI for a fee, so most don't. Those passengers won't have an assigned seat, even though they are reflected in seat availability. A plance with no availability in Y, prior to OLCI opening, could still have loads of seats unassigned, and passengers on a light fare can still be tempted to pay for advance seat selection.
However, in Y, passengers travelling on "light" fares and with no status can only select seats prior to OLCI for a fee, so most don't. Those passengers won't have an assigned seat, even though they are reflected in seat availability. A plance with no availability in Y, prior to OLCI opening, could still have loads of seats unassigned, and passengers on a light fare can still be tempted to pay for advance seat selection.
KL's loads in J to/from Canada must be quite healthy this fall, as I'm now experiencing this on most of my flights. Either that or everyone else has just decided to travel on the same dates as me.
The advantage for AFKL is that it dissuades people from calling the support line to ask for their seat to be changed if they can see an open seat that they want but are unable to actually change it.
I am of the opinion that locking it out for unassigned users is fine (albeit somewhat annoying) but once I have assigned myself a seat I should be able to change it until such time as the flight departs.
I am of the opinion that locking it out for unassigned users is fine (albeit somewhat annoying) but once I have assigned myself a seat I should be able to change it until such time as the flight departs.
#20
Join Date: Nov 2013
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It's absolutely not common practice, what are you talking about. This is a stupid "feature" on KLM's end.
#21
Join Date: May 2009
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Second, it is common practice, or I wouldn't have seen it happen on multiple airlines from multiple parts of the world.
Is it optimal for the customer? Probably not. Does it happen all the time? Yes.