KLM won't let me connect at YUL
#1
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KLM won't let me connect at YUL
I'm looking for an itinerary between AMS and YHZ for my mother-in-law in November. She'd rather connect in YUL than YYZ, but KLM doesn't offer any connections through YUL. They partner with Westjet for connections through YYZ, but not through YUL? It doesn't make sense to me.
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I'm looking for an itinerary between AMS and YHZ for my mother-in-law in November. She'd rather connect in YUL than YYZ, but KLM doesn't offer any connections through YUL. They partner with Westjet for connections through YYZ, but not through YUL? It doesn't make sense to me.
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It may not make sense to you but apparently it does make sense to them, so as you will not force them to add some additional code-shares from YUL, either you move on and book via YYZ or you fly with other airlines !
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I'm looking for an itinerary between AMS and YHZ for my mother-in-law in November. She'd rather connect in YUL than YYZ, but KLM doesn't offer any connections through YUL. They partner with Westjet for connections through YYZ, but not through YUL? It doesn't make sense to me.
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#7
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It exists.... maybe seasonal?
https://flights.app.goo.gl/MRCN7
Round trip
1
Economy
AmsterdamHalifax
Total price from
$1,451
Selected flights
Track prices
08:00
Halifax Stanfield International Airport YHZ
Travel time: 2 h 2 m
09:02
Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport YUL
WestJet
Economy
De Havilland-Bombardier Dash-8
WS 3450
Plane and crew by Westjet Encore
Ticket also sold by KLM
9 h 53 m layover
Montreal YUL
18:55
Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport YUL
Travel time: 6 h 40 m
Overnight
07:35+1
Amsterdam Airport Schiphol AMS
KLM
Economy
Airbus A330
KL 672
Ticket also sold by Delta
https://flights.app.goo.gl/MRCN7
Round trip
1
Economy
AmsterdamHalifax
Total price from
$1,451
Selected flights
Track prices
Departing flight Wed, 16 Oct
15:20
Amsterdam Airport Schiphol AMS
Travel time: 7 h 30 m
16:50
Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport YUL
KLM
Economy
Airbus A330
KL 671
Ticket also sold by Air France, Delta
Often delayed by 30+ min- Average legroom (79 cm)
- In-seat power & USB outlets
- On-demand video
2 h 0 m layover
Montreal YUL
18:50
Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport YUL
Travel time: 1 h 45 m
21:35
Halifax Stanfield International Airport YHZ
WestJet
Economy
De Havilland-Bombardier Dash-8
WS 3453
Plane and crew by Westjet Encore
Ticket also sold by Air France, Delta
Often delayed by 30+ min- Average legroom (76 cm)
Returning flight Sun, 20 Oct
08:00
Halifax Stanfield International Airport YHZ
Travel time: 2 h 2 m
09:02
Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport YUL
WestJet
Economy
De Havilland-Bombardier Dash-8
WS 3450
Plane and crew by Westjet Encore
Ticket also sold by KLM
- Average legroom (76 cm)
9 h 53 m layover
Montreal YUL
18:55
Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport YUL
Travel time: 6 h 40 m
Overnight
07:35+1
Amsterdam Airport Schiphol AMS
KLM
Economy
Airbus A330
KL 672
Ticket also sold by Delta
#8
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,381
you can force connections on matrix.itasoftware.com (and gflights to some extent)
KL671 flies AMS-YUL (3pm-5:05pm).
Picking a random day in Nov (Nov 15)
WS only has one YUL-YHZ flight (10am-12:50pm), which means you'll have to overnight (or do another connection) if flying AMS-YUL-YHZ
You can definitely buy this (nonideal)ticket
on the way back, WS only has YHZ-YUL 8am-9am, in time for KLM's YUL-AMS 6pm-8am
@GateGuardian 's flight is seasonal, until 10/26/19. can't tell when it picks up, you can look for WS's schedule (definitely not available in Nov)
you can fly in Air canada within canada, try it out? obviously more expensive (can make the return layover 3 hours instead of 10, +$300)
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=A...5*2.USD.109275
eg: this is possible, 2-3hour layover via YUL both ways, lowest you can get for AC legs are usd$1129. WS legs are cheaper due to lower YQ
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=A...4*2.USD.110364
KL671 flies AMS-YUL (3pm-5:05pm).
Picking a random day in Nov (Nov 15)
WS only has one YUL-YHZ flight (10am-12:50pm), which means you'll have to overnight (or do another connection) if flying AMS-YUL-YHZ
You can definitely buy this (nonideal)ticket
on the way back, WS only has YHZ-YUL 8am-9am, in time for KLM's YUL-AMS 6pm-8am
@GateGuardian 's flight is seasonal, until 10/26/19. can't tell when it picks up, you can look for WS's schedule (definitely not available in Nov)
you can fly in Air canada within canada, try it out? obviously more expensive (can make the return layover 3 hours instead of 10, +$300)
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=A...5*2.USD.109275
1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
BETWEEN WS AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION
BETWEEN AC AND AC IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
BETWEEN KL AND AC/WS IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION
BETWEEN KL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN UNITED STATES/
CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
BETWEEN KL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL/VS IN EUROPE IN
EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
BETWEEN WS AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION
BETWEEN AC AND AC IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
BETWEEN KL AND AC/WS IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION
BETWEEN KL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN UNITED STATES/
CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
BETWEEN KL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL/VS IN EUROPE IN
EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=A...4*2.USD.110364
Last edited by paperwastage; Sep 30, 2019 at 8:17 pm
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You might try calling a TA to see what is possible.
#11
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I don't know why I couldn't price the connection with other flight that seems to exist on Google.
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I just picked some random Nov dates. It can be priced on KL fare (€587 round trip) but the connection time is 9 to 16 hours in YUL thus most websites will not show it as an option.
Last edited by seawolf; Oct 7, 2019 at 10:05 am Reason: Correcting auto-correct