Connection time in AMS
Jan 22, 2017, 1:24 pm
#46
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Lets not forget:
Aspire lounges (26 en 41)
Airline lounge 40 (BA/OW)
PVG was more or less also using such a system -ie Lounge 37 near gate 18
Aspire lounges (26 en 41)
Airline lounge 40 (BA/OW)
PVG was more or less also using such a system -ie Lounge 37 near gate 18
Jan 22, 2017, 2:27 pm
#47
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Jan 22, 2017, 4:15 pm
#48
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In the mean time, I have tried to find information about why the lounges are numbered like they are -- and come up with nothing. I'll be sure to ask if I'm ever in the company of the right people.
Jan 22, 2017, 10:33 pm
#49
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The least they could do is to have boards here and there detailing which airlines are related to which Lounge.
Jan 23, 2017, 9:54 am
#50
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But it's nice to see that they are trying to improve.
Jan 23, 2017, 10:05 am
#51
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The numbering is, to the best of my knowledge, for historical reasons. It refers to a physical location [though BA's new location for its lounge retains its old "40" designation, so it doesn't necessarily mean an immutable physical location!] and usually corresponds to the numbering system used on all maps to indicate ALL facilities, not just the lounges (I believe that there is at least one other shop or other facility that is listed on maps using a number that is also used for the lounges).
The names of lounges can, and do, change - just as the name and nature of the shops, etc, changes - what is listed as "Menzies" and "Servisair" on the old map below is now called "Aspire".
"KLM Crown Lounge" may still be called the same, but who's to say it won't oneday be known as "Le Salon - Air France" or "Etihad Premium Lounge" or something else?
The numbering is something that is permanent, like an "address".
I notice that, when travelling with airlines from AMS that use Aspire, the checkin agents usually refer to the lounge number, even writing it on the boarding pass.
The names of lounges can, and do, change - just as the name and nature of the shops, etc, changes - what is listed as "Menzies" and "Servisair" on the old map below is now called "Aspire".
"KLM Crown Lounge" may still be called the same, but who's to say it won't oneday be known as "Le Salon - Air France" or "Etihad Premium Lounge" or something else?
The numbering is something that is permanent, like an "address".
I notice that, when travelling with airlines from AMS that use Aspire, the checkin agents usually refer to the lounge number, even writing it on the boarding pass.
Jan 23, 2017, 10:12 am
#52
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I get the same from the KLM check-in agents on those rare occasions that they tell me where the lounge is ^
Jan 24, 2017, 12:23 am
#54
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My point precisely. You have a lot of obvious screen/boards explaining that 17h00 KLM to Berlin will depart from B28. I don't remember seeing any obvious screen/board saying that KLM lounge is 25/52 (something like what Irishguy posted).
Jan 24, 2017, 12:57 am
#55
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There may well be a reason why Schiphol has a lounge 52, but many passengers will probably ask themselves what happened to the other 51.
Johan
Jan 24, 2017, 5:51 am
#56
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[ and all those who are questioning AMS ability to sluice you through efficiently ].
May I suggest that you consider travelling through another transfer point than AMS?
AMS is one terminal.
AMS is one level.
AMS has the world's clearest signage.
AMS signs show you walking distance (in time, for average legs)
AMS has immigration (and ex-) controls where required by law.
AMS has, for those cases, special lanes for people who can show that they believe they have a tight connection.
AMS has cleaning teams trained in mopping up the mess of pax whose knickers get in a twist or moisture incident. despite these above measures.
AMS has a very clear limit to pax volumes and flights (I live nearby, and I am a co-funder of the whole shebangle).
AMS will become increasingly discerning in who transits here.
YOU might find that we have decreasing patience with all these queries.
YOU may be much happier elsewhere.
May I suggest that you consider travelling through another transfer point than AMS?
AMS is one terminal.
AMS is one level.
AMS has the world's clearest signage.
AMS signs show you walking distance (in time, for average legs)
AMS has immigration (and ex-) controls where required by law.
AMS has, for those cases, special lanes for people who can show that they believe they have a tight connection.
AMS has cleaning teams trained in mopping up the mess of pax whose knickers get in a twist or moisture incident. despite these above measures.
AMS has a very clear limit to pax volumes and flights (I live nearby, and I am a co-funder of the whole shebangle).
AMS will become increasingly discerning in who transits here.
YOU might find that we have decreasing patience with all these queries.
YOU may be much happier elsewhere.
I normally find the Dutch an ready going live and let live lot, not sure what happened at AMS.
Last edited by nallison; Jan 24, 2017 at 9:15 am
Jan 24, 2017, 6:21 am
#58
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I posted a picture of just such a sign on this very page.
Jan 29, 2017, 5:54 pm
#59
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I transit Schipol 5/6 times per year. It's a fine airport, easy to get around and I like it.
My only gripe is the craziness around passport control coming in/out of the Schengen area. Adding more passport officers at peak times cannot be that hard. An earlier poster called passport control a shitshow and I think that is an apt description.
I had a 70 minute connection last friday, my incoming flight arrived early but the passport area was a mess, including the short connection line. By the time I arrived at the gate for my US-bound flight boarding was more than halfway over.
My only gripe is the craziness around passport control coming in/out of the Schengen area. Adding more passport officers at peak times cannot be that hard. An earlier poster called passport control a shitshow and I think that is an apt description.
I had a 70 minute connection last friday, my incoming flight arrived early but the passport area was a mess, including the short connection line. By the time I arrived at the gate for my US-bound flight boarding was more than halfway over.
Jan 30, 2017, 3:46 pm
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