Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Help on connection at AMS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 12, 2016 | 3:19 am
  #1  
Original Poster
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 89
Help on connection at AMS

Dear all,

I need to travel BRS (Bristol)-SIN (Singapore).
I am considering doing
BRS-AMS on KL1046 (0615-0845) and subsequently AMS-SIN on SQ323 (1025-0555+1). This will be booked on 2 separate PNRs.

I've a few questions about this routing:
1. Will KL interline the baggage with SQ, given that this is Non-Schengen to Non-Schengen?
2. Will this meet the min connection time?
- I'm guessing if they do not allow interlining of baggage, this would be a no-go, as there would not be sufficient time to retrieve the bags and re-checkin.

Thanks for your help!
itihm is offline  
Old Mar 12, 2016 | 3:55 am
  #2  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: mostly not far from AMS, otherwise NUE
Programs: FB Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,422
I don't know about interlining, but don't expect them to do so. In that case the connection is pretty much impossible, especially given recent queues at immigration and security in AMS in recent months.
mfkne is offline  
Old Mar 12, 2016 | 4:06 am
  #3  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Community Builder
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold; LH Senator
Posts: 30,603
"Interlining" is a service that is put in place to allow 2 carriers to sell a single ticket. As such, interlining is a service intended only for those on a single ticket.

While you may occasionally get some airlines to interline across separate tickets, KLM is not such an airline.

"Non-Schengen to non-schengen" is of no relevance to interlining in this, or any other, case.

"Minimum connection time" is a concept that only applies to single tickets. In such cases, you are covered in case of misconnecting. When putting together your own connection on separate tickets, yiu should instead be maximising your connection time to increase your chances of making the connection separately. Remember, if your incoming flight is late, delayed, cancelled or diverted, you lose your next ticket. Buying a new ticket to SIN on the day of departure will be very expensive.

If you must travel on separate tickets, you should instead arrive in Amsterdam the night before the next flight.
irishguy28 is offline  
Old Mar 12, 2016 | 4:46 am
  #4  
Original Poster
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 89
thanks everyone. much appreciated.
itihm is offline  
Old Mar 12, 2016 | 7:02 am
  #5  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Community Builder
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold/OW emerald, QR
Posts: 17,049
A lot of airlines do bag interlining with many other airlines on separate tickets, especially in Asia.
Unless SQ changed its policy recently, they would interline with KL on SIN-AMS-BRS. But the reverse might not be possible. And the BRS agent might not even know how to do it. Better be 100% sure given your short connection of 1h40.
brunos is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2016 | 3:26 pm
  #6  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amsterdam&Stuttgart& Edinburgh
Programs: IC Amb.,FB,Hertz,Sixt
Posts: 810
If you read the KLM website they make it clear that they will not do this unless all is on one ticket.
As said already that 'connection' is impossible
ninjalad is offline  
Old Mar 16, 2016 | 3:36 pm
  #7  
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Free agent
Posts: 315
Originally Posted by mfkne
I don't know about interlining, but don't expect them to do so. In that case the connection is pretty much impossible, especially given recent queues at immigration and security in AMS in recent months.
Is there any pattern to the slow inbound immigration - any particular immigration area to use or avoid?
klymen is offline  
Old Mar 17, 2016 | 4:06 pm
  #8  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: mostly not far from AMS, otherwise NUE
Programs: FB Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,422
It's pretty much a universal problem, aggravated by the fact that they seem to not open all immigration areas and redirect people to one.
mfkne is offline  
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 3:41 am
  #9  
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Free agent
Posts: 315
Thanks - good to know. I have an upcoming trip transiting through AMS on separate tickets (Non-Schengen to Non-Schengen). Will bear this in mind in the case that I need to bring checked luggage.

I have built in a long layover (5+ hrs connecting off a reliable shorthaul flight which arrives around 8am) so even if the queue is 1.5hrs I should have plenty of time. Worst case I think is I just stay airside in the Non-Schengen and arrange to collect my luggage on the way back a few days later.
klymen is offline  
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 7:57 am
  #10  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
Originally Posted by mfkne
It's pretty much a universal problem, aggravated by the fact that they seem to not open all immigration areas and redirect people to one.
Last Sunday afternoon arriving pax were sent on a lengthy walk to Terminal 3, where all of two KMar officers were on duty. Needless to say, all the biometric passport gates were closed. For once I got something out of my Privium membership.

Johan
johan rebel is offline  
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 8:25 am
  #11  
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Free agent
Posts: 315
Some context for anyone interested. Not sure if this is worthy of a separate thread to monitor the situation.

http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/03/15/sch...travel-season/
klymen is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.