KLM houses and security on connections
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KLM houses and security on connections
So this may be a really dumb question -- but
I'm making my first BE trip on KLM post 9/11 and the heightened security regime, flying Delta from the US-AMS, the KLM rt to DEL in business. Outbound, not a deal since I won't get the house until my last flight.
But on the return, I'll get a house on the DEL-AMS flight and then connect to a DL flight back to the US.
So, is security at AMS used to this and will let me through with no questions about the liquid containing Delft house, or do I have to open it up and drink the genever in the lounge at AMS so I can bring the house onto my US bound flight. (I do have a 2:55 connection in AMS so I guess I could check my bag to AMS, reclaim, put the house into the checked bag and recheck. But I'm sure this is a regular thing.
BTW outbound I'm flying upstairs, on the return in 4A (none of the single seats are available on the outbound) -- okay seat selections?
Thanks.
tom
I'm making my first BE trip on KLM post 9/11 and the heightened security regime, flying Delta from the US-AMS, the KLM rt to DEL in business. Outbound, not a deal since I won't get the house until my last flight.
But on the return, I'll get a house on the DEL-AMS flight and then connect to a DL flight back to the US.
So, is security at AMS used to this and will let me through with no questions about the liquid containing Delft house, or do I have to open it up and drink the genever in the lounge at AMS so I can bring the house onto my US bound flight. (I do have a 2:55 connection in AMS so I guess I could check my bag to AMS, reclaim, put the house into the checked bag and recheck. But I'm sure this is a regular thing.
BTW outbound I'm flying upstairs, on the return in 4A (none of the single seats are available on the outbound) -- okay seat selections?
Thanks.
tom
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The staff on the DEL-AMS flight will wrap it for you in a tamper-proof duty-free bag which will enable you to go through security at AMS on the day. AMS security staff are familiar with this procedure.
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As far as the house goes: what NickB says.
Regarding the seat: I always prefer the main deck Business Class environment to the upper deck. There tends to be a lot of walking to and forth to the cockpit on the upper deck which I have found annoying on some flights when it is excessive. The main deck is blissfully quiet.
Regarding the seat: I always prefer the main deck Business Class environment to the upper deck. There tends to be a lot of walking to and forth to the cockpit on the upper deck which I have found annoying on some flights when it is excessive. The main deck is blissfully quiet.
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Thanks Nick B and sbams. Looking forward to the flight. The DEL fare was roughly the same using KL and AF but the AF flights were not with the upgraded BE -- still the 2-3-2 777s. That really influenced me to KL and the new BE cabins. Although the AF flight to DEL arrives and departs at a slightly more reasonable time.
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As far as the house goes: what NickB says.
Regarding the seat: I always prefer the main deck Business Class environment to the upper deck. There tends to be a lot of walking to and forth to the cockpit on the upper deck which I have found annoying on some flights when it is excessive. The main deck is blissfully quiet.
Regarding the seat: I always prefer the main deck Business Class environment to the upper deck. There tends to be a lot of walking to and forth to the cockpit on the upper deck which I have found annoying on some flights when it is excessive. The main deck is blissfully quiet.
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I know this is an old thread but I have a similar, but more complex question. I'm flying Asia to Europe on KLM, then a series of 3 separate tickets on AB, IB, KLM, and DL to eventually get to the US... and then going back to Asia via Europe on another 3 separate tickets. How will the house work going through all those security checks in europe and the US? Is it fine anywhere as long as I keep it in the bag?
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You would be advised to put the sealed bag containing the Delft huisje into your checked luggage at the earliest opportunity, i.e. carry it as hand luggage for the remainder of that day's flying, but then transfer it to your checked luggage for all further flights.
You should NOT still be carrying it as hand luggage 7 flights, 3 weeks and 2 continents later...
You should NOT still be carrying it as hand luggage 7 flights, 3 weeks and 2 continents later...
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Exactly my suggestion. I collected a house flying JFK-AMS on 7/4. Subsequent intra-EU flights PRG-BRU-CPH and return home CPH-PRG-JFK-DCA, all carry on. Empty houses are just fine.
But fwiw, I collected a house flying AMS-YYZ last summer, intending to put in my checked bag for YYZ-DTW-DCA but my checked bag missed the flight to YYZ. I had no problems bringing the full house through security at YYZ in my carry on.
Off topic, but interesting - KL arranged for the misconnected bag to follow me to DCA, but it didn't fly YYZ-DTW-DCA. The bag seems to have crossed the US-CA border by courier to BUF and then flew BUF-DTW-DCA.
But fwiw, I collected a house flying AMS-YYZ last summer, intending to put in my checked bag for YYZ-DTW-DCA but my checked bag missed the flight to YYZ. I had no problems bringing the full house through security at YYZ in my carry on.
Off topic, but interesting - KL arranged for the misconnected bag to follow me to DCA, but it didn't fly YYZ-DTW-DCA. The bag seems to have crossed the US-CA border by courier to BUF and then flew BUF-DTW-DCA.
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Delayed bags cannot, by definition, travel with the owner.
Therefore, it makes no sense to route the bag along the same (but delayed) itinerary that their owner originally took if there is an alternate/better/cheaper way for the airline to fulfil their obligation to return the bag to its owner. At that stage, the bags are mere freight, and can forwarded in the manner that the airline sees fit.
Therefore, it makes no sense to route the bag along the same (but delayed) itinerary that their owner originally took if there is an alternate/better/cheaper way for the airline to fulfil their obligation to return the bag to its owner. At that stage, the bags are mere freight, and can forwarded in the manner that the airline sees fit.
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Therefore, it makes no sense to route the bag along the same (but delayed) itinerary that their owner originally took if there is an alternate/better/cheaper way for the airline to fulfil their obligation to return the bag to its owner. At that stage, the bags are mere freight, and can forwarded in the manner that the airline sees fit.
But I expect the most efficient/least problematic way to bring an unaccompanied bag into the US from Canada is over the land border and not to try to fly it unaccompanied.
Just thought it interesting.
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I've carried up to four (or more, on occasion) huisjes in my hand luggage on any number of flights, and never had any issues. Full huisjes, I might add, I do not drink gin.
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Yeah, it wasn't supposed to be so many tickets, but I bought a €300 roundtrip ticket from DUS to RSW on DL back in February, and figured the rest out later. I actually have just added yet another ticket onto the whole trip...
I have decided that is the best idea! I'll enjoy it upon arrival in MAD and then just carry the empty house all over the place before I get back to Japan.
I have decided that is the best idea! I'll enjoy it upon arrival in MAD and then just carry the empty house all over the place before I get back to Japan.