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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 8:47 pm
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E190 Business Class

Hello FTers,

Was curious if KL blocked out one of the seats in business class on the e90.

I have flown the F70 in the past and they will block one of the seats on the"2" side of the plane.

But, as I look at the seat map online, they do not have it xed out so I am thinking they do not, but it seems odd that they would do it on the Fokker but not the Ejet.

Thanks for the input.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 12:31 am
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No, they don't block seats on E190 EBC because it's 2x2 - the F70 being 2-3.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 12:32 am
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On the E190 no middle seat is blocked.

I have included a part from a meeting with a KLM manager a while back:

Why is there no blocked seat on the E190 in Europe Business Europe while the F70/100 do have a blocked (middle) seat?

Before Europe Business Class was introduced the E190 was the aircraft with the highest satisfaction score.

With the introduction of Europe Business Class certain aircraft have the middle seat blocked. Blocking the seats on the E190 would lead to a loss of 50% of capacity while it is lower for other aircraft (F70/100: 40% loss; B737: 33% loss).
As the E190 is predominantly used for short routes, taking in to account the possible loss of capacity it was chosen not to block the seat in Europe Business Class.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 2:01 am
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Originally Posted by A4K
I have flown the F70 in the past and they will block one of the seats on the"2" side of the plane.
That's incorrect - at least in the recent past.

Of course, the Europe Business Cabin is not always full, so it will often happen that you don't have anyone else in your row - but this is not because a seat was "blocked", but rather because the seat remained unsold.

Seat "blocking" works as follows:
MIDDLE seats only are blocked. This ensures that no passenger in EBC will have another passenger immediately to their left AND immediately to their right.

In the Fokkers and Embraers that only have 2 seats in a row, this can never happen anyway (as there is no middle seat), so no "blocking" occurs in these rows.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
That's incorrect - at least in the recent past.

Of course, the Europe Business Cabin is not always full, so it will often happen that you don't have anyone else in your row - but this is not because a seat was "blocked", but rather because the seat remained unsold.

Seat "blocking" works as follows:
MIDDLE seats only are blocked. This ensures that no passenger in EBC will have another passenger immediately to their left AND immediately to their right.

In the Fokkers and Embraers that only have 2 seats in a row, this can never happen anyway (as there is no middle seat), so no "blocking" occurs in these rows.
I am not sure you are fully right as on the Fokker 70 (and the F100 when it was in use), one seat on the 2-side is also blocked.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 4:01 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
In the Fokkers and Embraers that only have 2 seats in a row, this can never happen anyway (as there is no middle seat), so no "blocking" occurs in these rows.
Oh yes it does.

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Gajan
I am not sure you are fully right as on the Fokker 70 (and the F100 when it was in use), one seat on the 2-side is also blocked.
I can also confirm this is the case (at least for the moment...) I flew C-class in an F70 earlier this month, and both the aisle seat on the left-hand side (C) and middle seat on the right-hand side (E) were blocked, with the 'Reserved for your personal space' covers on the headrests.
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