standby availability
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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standby availability
I have a flight in the afternoon by would like to standby for one in the morning. When I called customer service they told me that there is atleast 9 seats left. Is there a way for me to check exactly how many seats are left?
#3
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The GDS tools that all carriers use to indicate seats for sale are single-digit tools. So they max out at 9 (4 in some cases). You won't know how many more than 9 there are from those systems. And carriers are loathe to give out that data as they generally consider it secret/proprietary/whatever.
#4
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 377
In general, if at least 9 seats are unsold, it's my experience that revenue standbys will have no problem getting on. Rarely does a flight have that many revenue standbys, and since you'll be at the top, 9 open seats is definitely a good thing to hear.
#5
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No it won't. Seat maps are notoriously unreliable indicators of the number of available seats on a plane. There are frequently passengers with paid tickets and no seat assignments.
The GDS tools that all carriers use to indicate seats for sale are single-digit tools. So they max out at 9 (4 in some cases). You won't know how many more than 9 there are from those systems. And carriers are loathe to give out that data as they generally consider it secret/proprietary/whatever.
The GDS tools that all carriers use to indicate seats for sale are single-digit tools. So they max out at 9 (4 in some cases). You won't know how many more than 9 there are from those systems. And carriers are loathe to give out that data as they generally consider it secret/proprietary/whatever.
#6
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I agree that this is generally the case; however, JetBlue has a policy for Airports crewmembers to "prep" flights in advance. Part of this process is assigning seats to customers who have no assignment, so if this policy is being followed in that city, the seat map should be a pretty good indicator (aside from blocked seats, which will show as unavailable even if they are open).
More accurate but still not great, especially well in advance of the flight departure. As for a more accurate way, the only real option there is to be an insider. Otherwise you're stuck with the limited public data. I did not mean to imply that I had a better solution, only that reliance on seat maps is a very inexact art.
#7
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i thought about the seat map idea, but as mentioned I wouldn't expect a flight on Thursday to be preped today.
I haven't tried it yet, but the only other thing I can think of is booking 9 refundable tickets and checking again. That said, does JetBlue over sell their flights? If so knowing there are nine seats I can book doesn't do much good.
I haven't tried it yet, but the only other thing I can think of is booking 9 refundable tickets and checking again. That said, does JetBlue over sell their flights? If so knowing there are nine seats I can book doesn't do much good.
#8
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Their general policy is not to oversell flights.
#9
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Originally Posted by ClimbGuy
i thought about the seat map idea, but as mentioned I wouldn't expect a flight on Thursday to be preped today.
I haven't tried it yet, but the only other thing I can think of is booking 9 refundable tickets and checking again. That said, does JetBlue over sell their flights? If so knowing there are nine seats I can book doesn't do much good.
#10
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 19
The GDS tools that all carriers use to indicate seats for sale are single-digit tools. So they max out at 9 (4 in some cases). You won't know how many more than 9 there are from those systems. And carriers are loathe to give out that data as they generally consider it secret/proprietary/whatever.
As SBM12 indicated, jetBlue shows up with a maximum of 4 seats at anytime. When I really want to make a flight I try to use both JetBlue.com's seatmap and flightstats.com. If flightstats says no flights available, I don't even bother listing.
jetBlue is extremely nice to standby flyers and have always been extremely honest with me when I call to list. They'll tell me my chances and sometimes if I get a nice manager he/she just assign me a seat if the flight is empty (almost always an exit row seat).
I know this is a little off topic but if you are listing for Revenue/Non Revenue travel jetBlue lets you call up to a month (maybe more?) in advance to list.
In my opinion jetBlue is the best airline to fly non-revenue/interline on (no I don't work for jetBlue).

