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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by prismwiz
B6 has an uphill battle anywhere they might want to base the E190's on the west coast and they will have to be willing to fight for passengers.
Originally Posted by Seat13c
I totaly agree that SEA really needs to be developed more. Just keep in mind that AS and WN will put a fight... B6 really needs to step up the advertising.
Both quite right -- the key is B6's willingness to fight for passengers and tear them away from the competition with price and frequency and reliability and marketing and a viable FF program, not wait to be discovered by enough customers who (A) dig blue potato chips or (B) couldn't get a seat on their preferred carrier, so they can bump along and eke out a living. In this second phase of its life JetBlue has to be willing to go out and rip the competition up. I've never seen them do that. Simply arriving in a market is no guarantor of success (and they know that from ATL, where B6 folded its tent in a hurry).
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by prismwiz
The route system would favor a LGB base if B6 could convince LGB that the E190 could be used in commuter slots rather than mainline slots.
LGB can't just change the definition of their slots.

The slot system at LGB is part of a 1995 court settlement from a lawsuit. It was then grandfathered in when federal noise law changed.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by j3823x
Can you explain a little further what B6's game plan is?

In the first paragraph you say "prefer to play with the big boys". In the second paragraph you mention "without going against large amounts of competition".

It seems like you're contradicting yourself.

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Sorry for any confusion my comments caused.

IMO, B6 wants be a major player, including only serving major cities, not secondary and tertiary airports, though the above comment about serving Plattsburgh may prove me wrong.

At the same time, they don't like going in to markets where there is an established existing carrier running high volume on a specific route (e.g. UA on SFO-LAX). They don't have the planes nor the history of throwing a ton of capacity at a new (to them) route the way WN does. This leaves them operating like the way they do out of SEA today - barely a drop in the bucket, but they can say that they have service. As BearX220 noted above, that won't endear them to business travelers, so that won't really help their market share.

Finally, B6 has not traditionally operated with a feeder airline mentality, so using OAK to feed the transcons would be another change of plans.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:12 pm
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Just a quick question on the SEA routes. They are obviously full planes that go out most of the time. From the people I talk to, Most SEA residents have zero clue that B6 is a player on the transcon. This is obviously, like PIT, from lack of advertising in the destination city. Does B6 make good money on this route? or is is like AA who operates these routes half ... just to say we are a "player"?
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 7:26 pm
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I'd love to see BOS-CHS Not bloody likely though.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:24 am
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[QUOTE=Playsmart;8353555]Just a quick question on the SEA routes. They are obviously full planes that go out most of the time. From the people I talk to, Most SEA residents have zero clue that B6 is a player on the transcon. QUOTE]

That's because B6 doesn't care enough about their 2-3X daily flights to advetise in SEA. The only advertising I have seen is in The New York Timeswhich I get daily. B6 is happy to fill all of their flights with people flying From JFK rather than To JFK.
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