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jetBlueNYFL May 5, 2007 3:28 pm

I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the jetBlue experience on the E190! I know you like a window, but if you can't get an exit row on the way back, try to get an aisle in the rear. This way, you can enjoy the 33" pitch (1" extra than up front) in rows 13-25. Also, since it is only 2 seats on each side, you can still see out the large windows, but IMO the aisle gives you more legroom than being crunched in the window seat.

The armrest on the door in the exit row is how all airplane manufacturers do it...it's an FAA mandate - nothing can block the actual exit in case of an emergency. But I do agree that it is not so comfortable as I have experienced it on the A320. I guess the legroom makes up for it!

JetBlueFA May 5, 2007 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by CitrusMCO (Post 7692415)
I did forget to look at the name on the plane though...all in all, great flight.

The aircraft's name was "Blueprint"

JetBlueFA May 5, 2007 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by jetBlueNYFL (Post 7692747)
The armrest on the door in the exit row is how all airplane manufacturers do it...it's an FAA mandate - nothing can block the actual exit in case of an emergency. But I do agree that it is not so comfortable as I have experienced it on the A320. I guess the legroom makes up for it!

The 190s is a little bit different than the 320. The 320 has a full armrest built into the door frame itself. The 190 has a little dinky one that stops mid forearm and comes out from the seat.

CitrusMCO May 5, 2007 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by jetBlueNYFL (Post 7692747)
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the jetBlue experience on the E190! I know you like a window, but if you can't get an exit row on the way back, try to get an aisle in the rear. This way, you can enjoy the 33" pitch (1" extra than up front) in rows 13-25. Also, since it is only 2 seats on each side, you can still see out the large windows, but IMO the aisle gives you more legroom than being crunched in the window seat.
!

Thanks! I'll be sure to do that! I was really surprised by the comfort of the 190.

Jerseyguy May 5, 2007 7:29 pm

CitrusMCO,
I know what you mean by legroom, I'm only 5'11/6', and I still feel uncomfortable in a 32" pitch. Luckily, I haven't flown with 32" pitch since July 2001 when I flew EWR-LHR on Virgin. I flew Frontier back in September where the pitch is 33" and I was even uncomfortable then, it was only a SLC-DEN flight so I could connect to my Jetblue DEN-JFK flight so it wasn't that bad.

I haven't had the pleasure of flying the new 36" section on Jetblue yet, it seems that those seats go fast (I wonder why :D ), but I hear good things so I'll keep trying.

JetBlueFA May 5, 2007 7:41 pm

One, well two words, EXIT ROW. The exit row on the 320 is golden.I just booked tickets for extended family and put them in the exit row. On my commute home today I was in the exit row, 10F which doesn't recline but that doesn't matter, and I am still amazed but the amount of leg room. I was one of the last to board , I put my rollerboard as well as my tote into the overhead and practically walked into the row which already had 2 other customers seated.

The exit row is always the way to go if you want room and comfort. Same with the 190. The worse row on the 190 is row 11. They don't recline and if 10 reclines you feel compressed into your seat.

CitrusMCO, I'm glad you had a wonderful trip to MCO! If I may ask how was the temprature on board the aircraft during the flight. I had that plane yesterday, brought it down to IAD for you, and then had it again today and the temperature seemed to continously fluctuate between hot and cold even though I never touched the temp dial on my panel.

jetBlueNYFL May 5, 2007 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by Jerseyguy (Post 7693477)
CitrusMCO,
I know what you mean by legroom, I'm only 5'11/6', and I still feel uncomfortable in a 32" pitch. Luckily, I haven't flown with 32" pitch since July 2001 when I flew EWR-LHR on Virgin. I flew Frontier back in September where the pitch is 33" and I was even uncomfortable then, it was only a SLC-DEN flight so I could connect to my Jetblue DEN-JFK flight so it wasn't that bad.

I haven't had the pleasure of flying the new 36" section on Jetblue yet, it seems that those seats go fast (I wonder why :D ), but I hear good things so I'll keep trying.

Just out of curiousity, why did you fly SLC-DEN to connect to a jetBlue JFK-DEN flight? You could have flown nonstop SLC-JFK on jetBlue! :D

Yes, the 36" rows go fast...but when you do fly in one of those seats, you're gonna LOVE it!

jetBlueNYFL May 5, 2007 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by JetBlueFA (Post 7693508)
One, well two words, EXIT ROW. The exit row on the 320 is golden.I just booked tickets for extended family and put them in the exit row. On my commute home today I was in the exit row, 10F which doesn't recline but that doesn't matter, and I am still amazed but the amount of leg room. I was one of the last to board , I put my rollerboard as well as my tote into the overhead and practically walked into the row which already had 2 other customers seated.

The exit row is always the way to go if you want room and comfort. Same with the 190. The worse row on the 190 is row 11. They don't recline and if 10 reclines you feel compressed into your seat.

CitrusMCO, I'm glad you had a wonderful trip to MCO! If I may ask how was the temprature on board the aircraft during the flight. I had that plane yesterday, brought it down to IAD for you, and then had it again today and the temperature seemed to continously fluctuate between hot and cold even though I never touched the temp dial on my panel.

Since the row removal, I stopped booking my usual seats (in the old config - 11C, 11D, 12C, 12D) to sit up front for last to board, first to get off and more legroom. Are the exit rows really such a difference since the reconfiguration of the A320 seats?? I would honestly think that the pitch is about 36-37". I know it's a new FAA mandate, but I hate the fact that the window seats in an exit row don't recline. There's no point when the old system worked just fine - the FA locking the rows below 10,000 ft.

About temperature fluctuations during flight, I find this to be quite common on long haul flights. Nearly every transoceanic or transcontinental flight I have been on in my life has been freezing cold one minute and so hot the next.

CitrusMCO May 5, 2007 9:56 pm

I didn't notice any significant temp fluctuation, but I was on the starboard side going south, so we had the sun shining right on us with the shade closed (and the shade sure felt hot). But that could have contributed to keeping my area relatively stable if the temp was falling in other parts of the plane.

Speaking of that, those Embraer shades that pull up rather than down were kinda interesting. Unfortunately the sun was shining right in my eye and there was heavy cloud-cover, so I didn't get to use the nice sized window much.

I've got to say, I'm very much a "buy American" guy and I am more likely to fly airlines that fly Boeing aircraft for that reason, but B6's set-up on the A320 and E190 is really nice...better than anything I've seen from any Boeing configurations. I really like the bins in the E190...nice plane.

Now if B6 would just get a gate at DCA. ^

Jerseyguy May 5, 2007 10:37 pm


Originally Posted by jetBlueNYFL (Post 7693772)
Just out of curiousity, why did you fly SLC-DEN to connect to a jetBlue JFK-DEN flight? You could have flown nonstop SLC-JFK on jetBlue! :D

Because I'm crazy, I thought that was a requirement for Flyertalk :D.

The real reason is, I HATE redeyes and the SLC-JFK Nonstop is a redeye. David are you listening??? NO MORE REDEYE ONLY CITIES!!!! JetblueFA next time you see him maybe you can slap some sense into him. :D When people look at a route like JFK-SLC, JFK-PDX, JFK-SMF. And they see 1 flight each way (westbound late evening eastbound redeye), most people get turned off by it, which is probably why they stay 1 flight markets due to lack of demand.
</rant off>

Also, question does JFK-SEA only a seasonal (summer) 2X nonstop? My brother had to go to SEA last month and he told me that he didn't fly B6 because of the time (late evening/redeye). He ended up roughing it with CO.

jetBlueNYFL May 5, 2007 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by Jerseyguy (Post 7694029)
Because I'm crazy, I thought that was a requirement for Flyertalk :D.

The real reason is, I HATE redeyes and the SLC-JFK Nonstop is a redeye. David are you listening??? NO MORE REDEYE ONLY CITIES!!!! JetblueFA next time you see him maybe you can slap some sense into him. :D When people look at a route like JFK-SLC, JFK-PDX, JFK-SMF. And they see 1 flight each way (westbound late evening eastbound redeye), most people get turned off by it, which is probably why they stay 1 flight markets due to lack of demand.
</rant off>

Also, question does JFK-SEA only a seasonal (summer) 2X nonstop? My brother had to go to SEA last month and he told me that he didn't fly B6 because of the time (late evening/redeye). He ended up roughing it with CO.

You do have a point about "staying 1-flight redeye markets" due to lack of demand. The redeye part makes sense for aircraft utilization purposes. But, it wouldn't hurt for jetBlue to at least *try* twice-daily service to the aforementioned cities. I'll give them some credit for adding a second SEA-JFK flight during peak season in the summer. I think PHX is 2x year round now? DEN goes up to 3 at some points I believe.

If not year-round, cities like TUS and SLC can definitely accomodate one extra flight for certain weeks of the year.

On the brief topic of transcons, I'll bring up once again that jetBlue should seriously look into MCO-SAN!!! I read somewhere (possibly here or a.net) that MCO-SAN has something like ~400 daily O&D traffic with not even one airline to serve the route nonstop. If jetBlue added a nonstop daily on the A320 to start off with (adding another one if it fills up), it would be a goldmine for them.

JAX2BOS May 5, 2007 11:04 pm


Originally Posted by CitrusMCO (Post 7693891)

I've got to say, I'm very much a "buy American" guy and I am more likely to fly airlines that fly Boeing aircraft for that reason, but B6's set-up on the A320 and E190 is really nice...better than anything I've seen from any Boeing configurations. I really like the bins in the E190...nice plane.

:-: Actually, a good percentage of the aircraft parts are manufactured in the US. Just assembled in Brazil..


Originally Posted by defiance96;

^ Based on the flight number, I would have guessed it was an A320. Most of the E190 flight numbers have four digits, but IAD-MCO does not. Perhaps it is a mixed use route. But regardless, its bad enough you can't pick your seat until after purchase...I don't know why B6 hides the ball even during the online booking process.

I would like to see us list the aircraft type as well... As far as the four digits, that used to be the case. We have gone to our summer schedule as of May 1 and especially here in BOS we have many Airbus routes like 421 (BOSPBI) that now operates with an E190. I believe that's the case with the new IADMCO route. Although it is an Airbus series flight number, I think for the summer season you'll have an E190 on the route due to our reduced Florida frequency. Additionally, the JFKBOSJFK flights which are four digits hop back and forth between E190s and A320s.



Originally Posted by JetBlueFA;
One, well two words, EXIT ROW. The exit row on the 320 is golden.

It may be me, but with the new seating configuration I'll take anything 1-11 anyday over the exit row. It's just a tad less legroom, however, the cushioning of the seats are more padded. If you're in 10 or 11 I find that it becomes a bit uncomfortable after a couple hours.. ;)

Please be advised I am posting this on my personal behalf. It is not an official posting nor the views of JetBlue.

somedude24 May 6, 2007 6:43 am


Originally Posted by jetBlueNYFL (Post 7694062)
On the brief topic of transcons, I'll bring up once again that jetBlue should seriously look into MCO-SAN!!! I read somewhere (possibly here or a.net) that MCO-SAN has something like ~400 daily O&D traffic with not even one airline to serve the route nonstop. If jetBlue added a nonstop daily on the A320 to start off with (adding another one if it fills up), it would be a goldmine for them.

Airtran is starting service on that route.

UPDATE: Well, their online route map shows it, but they don't actually seem to be flying it anytime on the schedule. Anyone know if this route is to become a reality?

defiance96 May 6, 2007 9:22 am


Originally Posted by jetBlueNYFL (Post 7693795)
I know it's a new FAA mandate, but I hate the fact that the window seats in an exit row don't recline.

Lets nip this misinformation in the bud once and for good. 10A/10F don't recline. 11A and 11F do recline. Its actually 9A and 9F, non-exit row seats, that don't recline so as to allow egress out of Row 10.

http://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN...se=obj(278)#s1

My seat of choice is 11A/F now.

dietcoke May 6, 2007 10:57 am

On the brief topic of transcons, I'll bring up once again that jetBlue should seriously look into MCO-SAN!!! I read somewhere (possibly here or a.net) that MCO-SAN has something like ~400 daily O&D traffic with not even one airline to serve the route nonstop. If jetBlue added a nonstop daily on the A320 to start off with (adding another one if it fills up), it would be a goldmine for them.[/QUOTE]


It looks as if JetBlue will be opening a MCO crew base later this year or early 2008 so there is a very good chance you may get your MCO-SAN wish.


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