JetBlue coming to BOS!
Sep 30, 2003, 11:09 pm
#16
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by audio-nut:
Using the very simple range chart on the airbus site, the range appears to be 2600 miles. BUT this is very general and can be off many miles either way due to optional equipment (like IFE), heavier than standard baggage loads (like the SJU market), different avionics packages, etc
edited to add: B6 has stated that they are taking out 6 seats for conmfort but most believe that the aircraft are too heavy for the long transcons.
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Using the very simple range chart on the airbus site, the range appears to be 2600 miles. BUT this is very general and can be off many miles either way due to optional equipment (like IFE), heavier than standard baggage loads (like the SJU market), different avionics packages, etc
edited to add: B6 has stated that they are taking out 6 seats for conmfort but most believe that the aircraft are too heavy for the long transcons.
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They are taking the seats out to accomodate space for wheelchair storage in the back because of a settlement that they made in a lawsuit regarding this. Their airplanes were not equipped with a closet large enough to accomodate someones folding chair if they wished to carry it. They aren't doing this as a good will gesture towards their passengers.
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Oct 1, 2003, 1:05 am
#17
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AS Flyer:
They are taking the seats out to accomodate space for wheelchair storage in the back because of a settlement that they made in a lawsuit regarding this. Their airplanes were not equipped with a closet large enough to accomodate someones folding chair if they wished to carry it. They aren't doing this as a good will gesture towards their passengers.</font>
They are taking the seats out to accomodate space for wheelchair storage in the back because of a settlement that they made in a lawsuit regarding this. Their airplanes were not equipped with a closet large enough to accomodate someones folding chair if they wished to carry it. They aren't doing this as a good will gesture towards their passengers.</font>
Oct 1, 2003, 5:43 am
#18
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gah! was hoping jetblue would start off with service to JFK. talk about a route that could use the competition--i'm sick of paying $450 roundtrip to get to long island...
Oct 1, 2003, 8:30 am
#19
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Ditto -- I was hoping for JFK service to connect with what they have out of there (the same way as BUF/BTV etc.) Maybe they just decided that nonstop flights out of Logan were more important. I guess we'll get JFK feeders once the Embraers come on stream.
What worries me a touch more is that B6 and Song seem to be engaged in a fight to the death, and I have a feeling that DL has more capability to survive such a fight. Maybe not, with the trad airlines the way they are, but if I were Neeleman I'm not convinced I'd deliberately go into markets Song is already in. Presumably he knows something I don't -- I guess that's pretty likely
But DEN? Why DEN? And did you notice they've rejigged the DEN-JFK flight to depart at 1:10am??
What worries me a touch more is that B6 and Song seem to be engaged in a fight to the death, and I have a feeling that DL has more capability to survive such a fight. Maybe not, with the trad airlines the way they are, but if I were Neeleman I'm not convinced I'd deliberately go into markets Song is already in. Presumably he knows something I don't -- I guess that's pretty likely
But DEN? Why DEN? And did you notice they've rejigged the DEN-JFK flight to depart at 1:10am??
Oct 1, 2003, 10:25 am
#20
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JetBlue, get your act together farewise on the new BOS-TPA route! The lowest fares I can find in FEB are $200 roundtrip, and on Fri/Sun the fares are as high as $150-$200 EACH WAY.
If you are just going to match the Song fares, it wouldn't help very mutch and I'll have to keep patronizing MHT and Southwest's REFUNDABLE MAXIMUM fare of $179 (I think) each way.
Grrrr
If you are just going to match the Song fares, it wouldn't help very mutch and I'll have to keep patronizing MHT and Southwest's REFUNDABLE MAXIMUM fare of $179 (I think) each way.
Grrrr
Oct 1, 2003, 12:29 pm
#22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by audio-nut:
That is incorrect! I was on a reconfigured plane yesterday and asked the FA about it. They said that they will put it on the seat in row 26. The settlement to the lawsuit is that they will start putting them upstairs instead of in the belly.
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That is incorrect! I was on a reconfigured plane yesterday and asked the FA about it. They said that they will put it on the seat in row 26. The settlement to the lawsuit is that they will start putting them upstairs instead of in the belly.
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Oct 1, 2003, 1:50 pm
#23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AS Flyer:
All you need to do is go back and do a search through some of the news sites and you can see for yourself. They are ONLY removing seats to accomodate their settlement.</font>
All you need to do is go back and do a search through some of the news sites and you can see for yourself. They are ONLY removing seats to accomodate their settlement.</font>
To back up my claim of reducing seating for range purposes (and also the now increased average baggage weights) look in the AA forum, here, for a post by "AS Flyer", as to weight issues.
Bottom line is BOS-CA runs are not going to be feasible because of weight issues.
Oct 2, 2003, 12:08 pm
#24
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Has anyone figured out what terminal Jet Blue will operate out of in BOS? D perhaps? Also does anyone have experience taking the first flight out of a city. E.g. if I got on the first flight on Jet Blue to depart BOS, would this be an interesting expedition or something special or unique? I am kind of thinking of taking the first flt out of BOS I think its to MCO on 1/7. Perhaps then I would come back on Song and compare the two. Hopefully at least in directly competing markets, Song will have the tv screens set up by then.
Oct 2, 2003, 2:23 pm
#25
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As a PR professional--I can guarantee you they will have either a big event/giveaway at Logan, or something for all the passengers onboard the first flightsl, etc. expect a nice article that day in The Globe and Herald as well (if their reps can pitch...)
Oct 2, 2003, 3:34 pm
#26
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jetsetter - according to this Front Page story in the Boston Globe on 10/1/03, see:
http://www.boston.com/business/artic...eads_to_logan/
"It will fly out of Terminal E but move to Terminal C after construction on a new Terminal A is completed in 2005."
http://www.boston.com/business/artic...eads_to_logan/
"It will fly out of Terminal E but move to Terminal C after construction on a new Terminal A is completed in 2005."
Oct 5, 2003, 12:24 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by steve100:
This is AWESOME news! Maybe the prices in the Boston market will come down now (for all carriers). I've been traveling to Manchester, NH or Providence, RI to get the cheap fares....
But now, with AirTran, ATA, and JetBlue all flying out of Boston, things are looking up! Now, if SouthWest would only start flying out of BOS, that would be great!</font>
This is AWESOME news! Maybe the prices in the Boston market will come down now (for all carriers). I've been traveling to Manchester, NH or Providence, RI to get the cheap fares....
But now, with AirTran, ATA, and JetBlue all flying out of Boston, things are looking up! Now, if SouthWest would only start flying out of BOS, that would be great!</font>
Oct 5, 2003, 5:12 am
#28
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by HeHateY:
Yes, but do you really want to use an airport as mis-managed as Logan?</font>
Yes, but do you really want to use an airport as mis-managed as Logan?</font>
also RE: BOS transcon range
UAL runs thrice daily BOS-LAX on a A320 eastbound and a 75 westbound. Care to wager why they don't run the airbus west?
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Oct 6, 2003, 11:08 am
#30
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Bravo904:
I would think BOS-LGB would be coming soon. Range should not be an issue and I wouldn't be surprised if a Boston-JFK popped up soon as well.</font>
I would think BOS-LGB would be coming soon. Range should not be an issue and I wouldn't be surprised if a Boston-JFK popped up soon as well.</font>