Gee-Frequent flyers should get free tickets after two roundtrips in the middle 48? And we all wonder why FF miles are being so devalued.

jetBlue fills a particular niche, those looking for low fares without the complicated hoops one must jump through on the majors. JB offers low fares, but if not available, they are probabbly sold out of the lower fares. Check any other airline, and they have a certain allotment of low fares.

Example, I had to go to Vegas last weekend for work, UA, AA and other majors were asking $160.00+. JB had the $19.00 fares each way.

I need to go to the bay area in 2 weeks, but only for the day, the majors were asking $250+ for same day return, I got a fare on JB for $72.00.

Lastly, I need a one way ticket from Washington DC to LA at the end of the year, most majors were quoting me $600.00+ JB... $124.00. This is a no brainer. As for the bait and switch, UA had a published fare to HI for $300 ish, I was interested and inquired, the price quited to me for the time I need to travel was $600.00+, but was assured if I could travel on the dated UA wanted me to travel (and specific times too) I could get the $300.00 fare.

I don't expect much for what I pay on JB, love the TV, and the blue chips! I am PM on DL, been so for the past 6 years and enjoy the perks offered to the top tier flyer. But, it comes at a price, namely higher fares than JB, especially if I want to upgrade. Have PremEx on UA, and like the Econ. +, but not if I have to pay a higher price to get me to the same destination in similar comfort.

It is too bad there are those out there that don't realize we all have choices, and if the business model JB is following is profitable (like Southwest), then more power to them.

Nothing I've said has been rebutted. My comments were not directed at last minute or full fare passengers, but the bulk of jet blue's customers-leisure travellers who think they're getting a bargain because of the hugely successful JB spin machine- who when they do the math re benefits of the majors. It is simply obscene to EVER pay JB the same (and sometimes a higher) fare than you would on a major and watch them scam you out of valuable FF benefits (which, as we all know are carried as liabilities by the airline.)

But let me end this post graciously---Clearly the hype has won----at least for now---I predict as people catch on they will have much to say on this subject.

Ah well: tv, yoga, chips who needs a ff program.

Everything you've said has been rebutted. Reread and you will see.

My comments are totally based on last minute flying because as a businesswoman, that is all I do. But true, there are times when I have more than 3 weeks notice. Yet the reality is still the same. The cost of flying across the country one day and flying back the very next day is $2264 on Continental while it's $285 on Jetblue. No frequent flyer program is worth paying almost $2000 MORE than I have to. What businessperson would pay $2000 more for frequent flyer 'benefits'? And this is with over a month's notice. So whether it's last minute or way in advance, Jetblue wins hands down.

So where is the scam? I don't see any lying at all. Every flight I've booked, the price has not changed. I know what the rules of True Blue are and frankly, I'd fly them even if True Blue did not exist.

I challenge you to show me where Continental is the exact same price as Jetblue for weekday travel in which I fly to Oakland (whoops, I mean SFO for CO---a much more inconvenient airport) on a weekday and return the following day. This is my travel pattern. You won't be able to do it.

There, I've rebutted your arguments. I challenge you to do mine. Justify my spending almost $2000 more on a nonstop flight to and from the west coast.

odnyc, who do you work for? AA? I know they're really mad at JetBlue!

I have flown JB twice now on nonstop flights from IAD to LGB and OAK in relative comfort and with friendly staff for a fraction of what it would generally cost me. I will continue to do so until the majors figure out that they need to treat their customers fairly and that the market is now in favor of the customer and not the airlines.
There, I have refuted all of your arguments.
What say you JB hater!

I stated in my previous post that I was looking into a trip in December ( a good 2 months from now) for a oneway ticket from DC to LA. Here is what I found for fares:

JB: $124.00 (nonstop)
National: $187.00 (1-stop)
America West: $207.00 (1-stop)
UA: $ $459.00 (nonstop)
UA: $ 357.00 (1-stop)
AA: $1062.00 (nonstop)
AA: $423.00 (1-stop)
DL: $459.00 (1-stop)
CO: $461.00 (1-stop)
NW: $968.00 (1-stop)
US: $992.00 (1-stop)

So... based on this, jetBue has the lowest fare for the date in question (12/29)

Just thought I'd see if I could beat the JB fare on SW -- nope, on 29 Dec, the lowest one-way far from BWI to LAX is $249.

I'm still waiting for odnyc to show me when CO will beat JetBlue's cross country airfares when travelling on one weekday and flying home the next.

Where are you, odnyc? Please, show me a CO fare less than JetBlue!!! Right now, CO's nonstop fares between EWR and SFO are still well over $2000. That's with months and months of advanced notice. To me, it's all about money. If CO can beat them as well as add satellite television (I hate Continental Vision and those flights are ever so long), I'll go back to CO.

I for one cannot wait to see B6 begin flying JFK-IAH/HOU. With its essential truck route being threatened, should be interesting to see what strategy "New York's dominant airline" takes to retain value in its pax's eyes.

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Smile.... your mother could have placed you in an A340!

Hey odnyc, I have just 4 words for you.

you are an idiot.

We get that you don't like jetBlue... We LIKE jetBlue here so why don't you go whine somewhere else! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif

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People, does the word TROLL mean nothing to you??? Ignore them and they will crawl back under their rocks, I promise. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Hmmm. I can't seem to find the scam. I've read through odnyc's posts and couldn't find the scam. I'm hoping one of my fellow FT'ers can point it out to me.

Does JetBlue own the press? Do they dictate to the journalists in the media what they can print and air?

Does JetBlue have sneaky language in the press and on their website that somehow intimates that a passenger flying on JetBlue will get a meal?

How many different classes of service are offered on JetBlue? One? Two? Three!? It's really all very hard to say since JetBlue has this scam going.

JetBlue has a FF program? Really? What's it called? Does it have a name? Has anyone actually redeemed points for a free ticket? Could you without any trouble redeem points for a free ticket if you had enough points like you can on say CO or DL when you want a standard domestic award for 25,000 miles?

How come the folks at JetBlue haven't been put on trial for this scam? Has the gov't gone soft on the airlines? Does the gov't only care about the telecom industry and the banking industry? I guess so. odnyc, I hope you have alerted the SEC about this scam. Shame on Jetblue.

It is funny how many JB fliers consider the Major's FF miles to be worthless. I made one round trip to Singapore on UA for under a thousand a few months ago, and the FF miles I earned were almost equal to 2 domestic round trips. (counting elite bonus)

It was just over 40,000 miles, with 20,000 status miles. All said and done, with credit card and car and hotel bonuses I almost earned 50,000 miles for the trip, had access to great lounges, lots of legroom. I did however miss out on watching John Macenroe, the 85 world series, cooking shows, and the same 30 minutes of continuous sniper coverage 16 times over.

Well JFKfLyer, your roundtrip to Singapore from NYC was over 50% cheaper than CO would charge for a back-to-back roundtrip to California. Holy Cow! LOL I'm very glad you pointed that out.

For me and my travels, it's all about money. $285 vs $2264. I'll pick the first one. And I can keep my DirectTV. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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