Help understanding value of points
#1
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Join Date: May 2016
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Help understanding value of points
I am generally good at math but some reason airline points confuse me a lot. Even after readying a bunch of guides online. Could someone explain it better to me?
If a jetblue point is worth 1.3 cents, does that mean that for every point I use, if I were to convert the points to a dollar amount, the points give me an extra .003 cents per every 1 cent I would normally pay in dollars? Would that be correct?
If we take a mint ticket that is worth $598.10 in dollars and 45300 points + 5.60 in taxes/fees how much "dollars" would I be paying if I used points? Would it be 598.1/45300 = ~1.3. So for every point I get .003 cents extra. So 45300*.003=135.9 So If I pay with points and convert to dollars I would be paying 598.10 - 135.90+ 5.6 = 467.8 Is this correct?
If a jetblue point is worth 1.3 cents, does that mean that for every point I use, if I were to convert the points to a dollar amount, the points give me an extra .003 cents per every 1 cent I would normally pay in dollars? Would that be correct?
If we take a mint ticket that is worth $598.10 in dollars and 45300 points + 5.60 in taxes/fees how much "dollars" would I be paying if I used points? Would it be 598.1/45300 = ~1.3. So for every point I get .003 cents extra. So 45300*.003=135.9 So If I pay with points and convert to dollars I would be paying 598.10 - 135.90+ 5.6 = 467.8 Is this correct?
Last edited by dom89; Jun 28, 2016 at 8:46 pm
#2
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You can either spend points or you can spend cash. There is not a fixed value for what a point is worth but 1.3 cents seems to be a good average of late. If you want to know the point value for a specific itinerary divide out the cents to buy it by the number of points to buy the same thing. In the example you've provided a point would be worth 1.36 cents, not 1.3 cents, as it is 43,500 point for $591 in value (I removed the $5.60 from the revenue fare, too, as you pay that in cash either way).
If you believe that 1.3 cents is a good go/no-go point for making a decision then simply divide the revenue price by the number of points. If the resulting number is higher than 1.3 then you got a good deal with points. If it is lower then probably not.
And, yes, if you believe the 1.3 cents number then you are "saving" ~$25 dollars paying with points in that scenario, but also giving up the opportunity cost of earning 9 points per dollar (Mint bonus and online bonus) so ~5200 points (or more if Mosaic or using the B6 CC). That's about $65 in opportunity cost.
If you believe that 1.3 cents is a good go/no-go point for making a decision then simply divide the revenue price by the number of points. If the resulting number is higher than 1.3 then you got a good deal with points. If it is lower then probably not.
And, yes, if you believe the 1.3 cents number then you are "saving" ~$25 dollars paying with points in that scenario, but also giving up the opportunity cost of earning 9 points per dollar (Mint bonus and online bonus) so ~5200 points (or more if Mosaic or using the B6 CC). That's about $65 in opportunity cost.
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The value ratio varies somewhat, but not nearly as much as it can on airlines with fixed redemption tables. That's where you can score phenomenal deals, such as last-minute travel when saver awards are available while all cash fares are sky-high. Alas TrueBlue isn't that kind of program.
#4
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Thanks for the replies. I just realized that I had wrong calculations and never submitted my edit until now. Could you please re-read the OP and let me know if you what have said so far still applies?
smb12, I had not thought about the opportunity cost. That is something for me to keep in mind.
RandomBaritone, I know the ratio varies which is why I gave the mint example since those prices are pretty standard with $598.10 being the lowest you can find recently. One thing that prompted me to make this post is I recently booked a roundtrip ticket to SDQ from JFK during a recent sale. The cost in dollars would have come out to be $366 but in points I ended up paying 8000 points + 104 in fees and I am trying to figure out if I ended up saving dollars by using my points. In this case the point value is definitely higher than 1.3
smb12, I had not thought about the opportunity cost. That is something for me to keep in mind.
RandomBaritone, I know the ratio varies which is why I gave the mint example since those prices are pretty standard with $598.10 being the lowest you can find recently. One thing that prompted me to make this post is I recently booked a roundtrip ticket to SDQ from JFK during a recent sale. The cost in dollars would have come out to be $366 but in points I ended up paying 8000 points + 104 in fees and I am trying to figure out if I ended up saving dollars by using my points. In this case the point value is definitely higher than 1.3
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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Thanks for the replies. I just realized that I had wrong calculations and never submitted my edit until now. Could you please re-read the OP and let me know if you what have said so far still applies?
smb12, I had not thought about the opportunity cost. That is something for me to keep in mind.
RandomBaritone, I know the ratio varies which is why I gave the mint example since those prices are pretty standard with $598.10 being the lowest you can find recently. One thing that prompted me to make this post is I recently booked a roundtrip ticket to SDQ from JFK during a recent sale. The cost in dollars would have come out to be $366 but in points I ended up paying 8000 points + 104 in fees and I am trying to figure out if I ended up saving dollars by using my points. In this case the point value is definitely higher than 1.3
smb12, I had not thought about the opportunity cost. That is something for me to keep in mind.
RandomBaritone, I know the ratio varies which is why I gave the mint example since those prices are pretty standard with $598.10 being the lowest you can find recently. One thing that prompted me to make this post is I recently booked a roundtrip ticket to SDQ from JFK during a recent sale. The cost in dollars would have come out to be $366 but in points I ended up paying 8000 points + 104 in fees and I am trying to figure out if I ended up saving dollars by using my points. In this case the point value is definitely higher than 1.3
In your last example $366 vs 8000points+$104. Without taking opportunity cost into the picture, your 8000 points is offsetting the $262 ($366-104) you would have paid going full cash. $262/8000 = 3.3cpp. I'd say, you made a good choice...ESPECIALLY if you value those points around 1.3cpp. At 1.3cpp, 8000 points = $104. So your total was $208. You just spent $208 to get a $366 ticket. Did you do well?
You just bought that ticket at "46% off". But it's defined BY YOU. If your bar is 4cpp (unlikely)...then almost every time...you'll be "saving money" by just spending cash.

