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haddon90 Dec 5, 2011 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by adamj023 (Post 17558410)
DCA makes sense for JetBlue out of LaGuardia. Considering JetBlue got slots out of DCA + LGA, they can increase traffic loads and provide better connectivity at these two airports.

what connectivity? both LGA and DCA have the same destinations save for BOS (DCA) and PBI (LGA). your not getting any connections on a DCA-LGA flight.

DCA-JFK would be great for connections, but i doubt B6 would make enough $ on that route.

sfozrhfco Dec 30, 2011 10:33 am

The DCA slots just became more valuable as DL is exiting the DCA-BOS market in April going from 7 flights per day down to 0.

bennytma Dec 30, 2011 11:46 am


Originally Posted by sfozrhfco (Post 17716266)
The DCA slots just became more valuable as DL is exiting the DCA-BOS market in April going from 7 flights per day down to 0.

Really? Where'd you hear that? Expertflyer is showing availability on DL btw BOS-DCA well into June and July....

sfozrhfco Dec 30, 2011 12:09 pm

Today's OAG schedule change report. If you go to www.delta.com, you will see connections through Detroit and JFK to go from BOS to DCA.

DL DCA-ATL MAY 16>15 JUN 16>15 JUL 16>15
DL DCA-BDL APR 3>1.7 MAY 3>1.7 JUN 3>1.7 JUL 3>0.5 AUG 3>0
As predicted, they actually added frequency in last week's load. Weird
**DL DCA-BOS MAR 8>7 APR 7>0 MAY 7>0 JUN 7>0 JUL 7>0 AUG 7>0
DL DCA-CHS APR 1.9>0.8 MAY 1.9>0.9 JUN 1.8>0.8 JUL 1.9>0.3 AUG 1.9>0
*DL DCA-CMH APR 3>0 MAY 3>0 JUN 3>0 JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0
*DL DCA-DSM JUL 0.9>0.3 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-GRR JUL 0.9>0.3 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-IND JUL 3>0.8 AUG 3>0
*DL DCA-JAN MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-MSN FEB 0.8>0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-MSY FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
*DL DCA-PVD APR 3>0 MAY 3>0 JUN 3>0 JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0

bennytma Dec 30, 2011 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by sfozrhfco (Post 17716844)
Today's OAG schedule change report. If you go to www.delta.com, you will see connections through Detroit and JFK to go from BOS to DCA.

DL DCA-ATL MAY 16>15 JUN 16>15 JUL 16>15
DL DCA-BDL APR 3>1.7 MAY 3>1.7 JUN 3>1.7 JUL 3>0.5 AUG 3>0
As predicted, they actually added frequency in last week's load. Weird
**DL DCA-BOS MAR 8>7 APR 7>0 MAY 7>0 JUN 7>0 JUL 7>0 AUG 7>0
DL DCA-CHS APR 1.9>0.8 MAY 1.9>0.9 JUN 1.8>0.8 JUL 1.9>0.3 AUG 1.9>0
*DL DCA-CMH APR 3>0 MAY 3>0 JUN 3>0 JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0
*DL DCA-DSM JUL 0.9>0.3 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-GRR JUL 0.9>0.3 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-IND JUL 3>0.8 AUG 3>0
*DL DCA-JAN MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-MSN FEB 0.8>0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.9>0
*DL DCA-MSY FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
*DL DCA-PVD APR 3>0 MAY 3>0 JUN 3>0 JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0


I guess the changes haven't made it to Expertflyer or DL.com yet. DL.com is still showing nonstops for ex June 12-19 albeit at over $1000 r/t! How long does it normally take for these changes to filter through the system? The OAG schedule change report is available only as a paid service huh?

sfozrhfco Dec 30, 2011 12:38 pm

A person posts the changes every week on:

http://www.airliners.net//aviation-f...neral_aviation

This weeks is at:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5345454/

Schedule changes usually go through over the weekend so the flights should be removed by Monday.

N830MH Dec 30, 2011 10:54 pm


Originally Posted by sfozrhfco (Post 17717030)
A person posts the changes every week on:

http://www.airliners.net//aviation-f...neral_aviation

This weeks is at:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5345454/

Schedule changes usually go through over the weekend so the flights should be removed by Monday.

This guys who post on entire a.net for every week. His username is enilria. He know what exactly he is doing. If the schedule is subject to change without notice. He has responsible to posted the OAG schedule for every week.

sfozrhfco Feb 13, 2012 7:47 am

First clues about new routes from LGA/DCA were just posted on the B6 website:

# La Guardia, NY (LGA) and Fort Myers, FL (RSW) starts June 11, 2012
# La Guardia, NY (LGA) and Sarasota Bradenton, FL (SRQ) starts June 11, 2012
# La Guardia, NY (LGA) and Tampa, FL (TPA) starts June 11, 2012
# Washington DCA, DC (DCA) and Tampa, FL (TPA) starts June 11, 2012

Brigri Feb 13, 2012 8:27 am


Originally Posted by sfozrhfco (Post 18005647)
First clues about new routes from LGA/DCA were just posted on the B6 website:

# La Guardia, NY (LGA) and Fort Myers, FL (RSW) starts June 11, 2012
# La Guardia, NY (LGA) and Sarasota Bradenton, FL (SRQ) starts June 11, 2012
# La Guardia, NY (LGA) and Tampa, FL (TPA) starts June 11, 2012
# Washington DCA, DC (DCA) and Tampa, FL (TPA) starts June 11, 2012

Very interesting, especially SRQ. I would expect this one in particular to be a winner, Airtran is pulling out of SRQ completely so they might see a nice pickup there. Staying away from the LGA-BOS shuttle is a good move in my opinion.

JBLU421NYC Feb 13, 2012 9:01 am

So looking at the frequencies:
LGA-FLL 6X Daily (Stays the same)
LGA-MCO 4X Daily (Up 3)
LGA-SRQ 1X Daily (New)
LGA-RSW 1X Daily (New)
LGA-TPA 2X Daily (New)

DCA-BOS 10X Daily (Up 3)
DCA-FLL 3X Daily (Up 2)
DCA-MCO 3X Daily (Up 2)
DCA-TPA 1X Daily (New)

I thought for sure they would offer something from LGA-BOS but it is nice to see the Florida expansion to these new cities along with the extra flights to MCO.

FWAAA Feb 13, 2012 9:38 am

B6 paid an awful lot of money for those slots; odd that many of them are planned for leisure destinations in Florida.

sbm12 Feb 13, 2012 11:31 am

Official release out now: http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix....476&highlight=

N830MH Feb 13, 2012 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 18007117)

Well, isn't enough more slots from LGA/DCA? Why they can't have more new route LGA-BOS? Oh well! :(

Brigri Feb 13, 2012 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by FWAAA (Post 18006319)
B6 paid an awful lot of money for those slots; odd that many of them are planned for leisure destinations in Florida.

They will fill those planes, better than the money-losing shuttle.

FWAAA Feb 13, 2012 1:34 pm


Originally Posted by Brigri (Post 18007781)
They will fill those planes, better than the money-losing shuttle.

I have no doubt they'll fill the planes, but at what price? B6 paid $5 million each for the DCA slot pairs and $4 million each for the LGA slot pairs. Unless B6 can significantly increase its margins on these flights, the $4.5 million average investment per flight will eat into the profits from these flights in a big way.


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