Rail Pass Questions
#16
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I didn't know about this either.
http://www.keisei.co.jp/keisei/tetud....../index.html ...
http://www.keisei.co.jp/keisei/tetud....../index.html ...
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He thought I was being a dreadful pedant to insist that Tokyo's underground railway network is not known as the "metro" and "Tokyo Metro" is the corporate identity of one company that runs some subway lines.
Well... I am a dreadful pedant... but I was only trying to help.
I do think it was a mistake for "Eidan" to change its name to "Tokyo Metro".
#18

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I didn't know about this either.
http://www.keisei.co.jp/keisei/tetud....../index.html
http://www.keisei.co.jp/keisei/tetud....../index.html
Even though having use of only Tokyo Metro lines it seems you can still get to anywhere, I don't want to waste time if it's not necessary.
I'm guessing there's no Keisei Skyliner + SUICA bundle, so my options would be to:
1) Skyliner + Metro Pass, and live without the Toei lines
2) N'EX + SUICA, and have a slightly less convenient time getting to my hotel (one more transfer, or walk from Akasaka Mitsuke)
3) Forget the package deals and buy Skyliner and SUICA separately
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I suggest getting the NEX Suica package - get the NEX to Tokyo, get the Marunouchi line Westbound to Kokkai-gijidomae, change to the Chiyoda line and go Westbound to Nogizaka station.
For convenience with the other package, avoid making a transfer from the Skyliner at Ueno (the walk takes around 10 minutes). Go to Nishi-Nippori instead and get the Chiyoda line directly to Nogizaka.
Asia Center is the same distance from Nogizaka as Aoyama Itchome
For convenience with the other package, avoid making a transfer from the Skyliner at Ueno (the walk takes around 10 minutes). Go to Nishi-Nippori instead and get the Chiyoda line directly to Nogizaka.
Asia Center is the same distance from Nogizaka as Aoyama Itchome
Last edited by LapLap; Nov 2, 2008 at 10:10 am Reason: correct the link
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I suggest getting the NEX Suica package - get the NEX to Tokyo, get the Marunouchi line Westbound to Kokkai-gijidomae, change to the Chiyoda line and go Westbound to Nogizaka station.
For convenience with the other package, avoid making a transfer from the Skyliner at Ueno (the walk takes around 10 minutes). Go to Nishi-Nippori instead and get the Chiyoda line directly to Nogizaka.
Asia Center is the same distance from Nogizaka as Aoyama Itchome
For convenience with the other package, avoid making a transfer from the Skyliner at Ueno (the walk takes around 10 minutes). Go to Nishi-Nippori instead and get the Chiyoda line directly to Nogizaka.
Asia Center is the same distance from Nogizaka as Aoyama Itchome
I suggest
(1) Take the Skyliner to Keisei Ueno.
Walk from Keisei Ueno to Ginza Line
Take Ginza Line to Aoyama Itchome
(2) Take the N'EX to Tokyo Station
Walk to Marunouchi Line subway
Take Marunouchi Line subway to Akasaka Mitsuke
Change at Akasaka Mitsuke to Ginza Line
Take Ginza Line to Aoyama Itchome
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#23

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So you guys think a Metro Pass will be sufficient? I don't know how much of a hassle transfers are, but if I don't need to use the Oedo line then I'll stick with just using Tokyo Metro. If I need to use JR lines I'll just pay for it (was planning on going to Kichijoji and Yokohama).
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It depends where you're planning to go. I don't think that it's a good idea to force yourself to avoid certain lines, merely to save a few pennies on fares.
Even if I had a Metro pass, I'd probably still buy a SUICA on the first occasion that I wanted to ride a non-Metro train.
You can get a refund on the SUICA at the end of the trip. In the worst case, you may lose ¥210 (JR's charge for refunding unused credit). If you're smart, you'll find a way to run the stored credit down to zero before asking for a refund on the deposit (no charge for that). To me, the added convenience is worth it.
Even if I had a Metro pass, I'd probably still buy a SUICA on the first occasion that I wanted to ride a non-Metro train.
You can get a refund on the SUICA at the end of the trip. In the worst case, you may lose ¥210 (JR's charge for refunding unused credit). If you're smart, you'll find a way to run the stored credit down to zero before asking for a refund on the deposit (no charge for that). To me, the added convenience is worth it.
#25

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It depends where you're planning to go. I don't think that it's a good idea to force yourself to avoid certain lines, merely to save a few pennies on fares.
Even if I had a Metro pass, I'd probably still buy a SUICA on the first occasion that I wanted to ride a non-Metro train.
You can get a refund on the SUICA at the end of the trip. In the worst case, you may lose 210 (JR's charge for refunding unused credit). If you're smart, you'll find a way to run the stored credit down to zero before asking for a refund on the deposit (no charge for that). To me, the added convenience is worth it.
Even if I had a Metro pass, I'd probably still buy a SUICA on the first occasion that I wanted to ride a non-Metro train.
You can get a refund on the SUICA at the end of the trip. In the worst case, you may lose 210 (JR's charge for refunding unused credit). If you're smart, you'll find a way to run the stored credit down to zero before asking for a refund on the deposit (no charge for that). To me, the added convenience is worth it.
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There are hawkers and scalpers on the street? Maybe I have been to China too much because except in Roppongi (where they are really obnoxious), I hardly ever notice them in Japan, unless I need some kleenex!
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So you guys think a Metro Pass will be sufficient? I don't know how much of a hassle transfers are, but if I don't need to use the Oedo line then I'll stick with just using Tokyo Metro. If I need to use JR lines I'll just pay for it (was planning on going to Kichijoji and Yokohama).
They are not passes, but they are debit cards, like London's Oyster Card, that calculate your fares and transfers for you.
You don't save any money, but on the last trip, I liked being able to transfer between JR and the subway simply by swiping my Pasmo card, instead of the old routine of digging out a different card or stopping at the ticket machine.
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