11 Days.. what to do?
#16
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... Do you think it's too adventurous to hop off the flight and try to get a train to Kyoto almost immediately? We're planning to do that right now... ... going right to Narita on Monday AM...
Any thoughts on how far in advance I need get to the airport? Our flight out is at 14:55 and we're in J...
Any thoughts on how far in advance I need get to the airport? Our flight out is at 14:55 and we're in J...
The N'Ex averages twice per hour in the evenings. The evening Nozomis from Tokyo to Kyoto run several times per hour up until 9:20 pm. The Hikari (for Rail Pass users) stops running at about 8:00 pm.
The answer to your first question depends on whether you want to face 4 to 5 more hours of travel after your arrival.
I'll let others field the Hakone questions.
Give yourself at LEAST 2 hours at the airport before your departure. They actually suggest 3 hours but that is a bit much. I usually allow 2.5, but I am a bit obsessive about being early everywhere.
For a 14:55 departure, I'd plan on being ON the N'Ex from Tokyo by no later than noon, a little earlier from Shinagawa if you go from there.
I think you could depart for the airport directly from your last stopover point if you start fairly early in the morning. I went all the way from Shikoku Island to KIX the morning of my departure last fall. Just plan out the connections ahead of time to make sure of the times and have some backup connections just in case. Hyperdia is your friend: http://grace.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi . For most stations, just enter the city or station name. For NRT, use Narita Airport.
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For a 14:55 departure, if I am in biz class or have status on the airline, I would leave Tokyo at 12:40 myself and still have time for the airport lounge. Except at the start of Golden Week or something like that, I have never needed to be at the airport 2 hours in advance.
They recently improved the JR office traffic flow in terminal 1. There are two positions for tickets and pass exchange orders and a separate person just for the N'Ex/Suica deal.
I find the Hakone area rather touristy, but it's Japanese-tourist oriented, so you may find that interesting. You certainly can activate your pass and go to Kyoto on arrival. Since you are flying DL, you won't have cheap choices to fly domestically, train would be next best. I might be inclined to do Hiroshima/Miyajima a bit later in the trip, a day or two without long train travel might be nice on arrival.
They recently improved the JR office traffic flow in terminal 1. There are two positions for tickets and pass exchange orders and a separate person just for the N'Ex/Suica deal.
I find the Hakone area rather touristy, but it's Japanese-tourist oriented, so you may find that interesting. You certainly can activate your pass and go to Kyoto on arrival. Since you are flying DL, you won't have cheap choices to fly domestically, train would be next best. I might be inclined to do Hiroshima/Miyajima a bit later in the trip, a day or two without long train travel might be nice on arrival.
Last edited by RichardInSF; Mar 7, 2008 at 1:37 pm
#18
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I've updated the itin from what I heard here and changed the initial thread.
Still trying to figure out Hakone as I'd like to visit the hot springs! Not sure if it'll be a Sunday AM train, check in, tour, enjoy the Rayokan and then get to bed. Then home in the AM or a Saturday afternoon type affair.
Any suggstions?
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I've updated the itin from what I heard here and changed the initial thread.
Still trying to figure out Hakone as I'd like to visit the hot springs! Not sure if it'll be a Sunday AM train, check in, tour, enjoy the Rayokan and then get to bed. Then home in the AM or a Saturday afternoon type affair.
Any suggstions?
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I've updated the itin from what I heard here and changed the initial thread.
Still trying to figure out Hakone as I'd like to visit the hot springs! Not sure if it'll be a Sunday AM train, check in, tour, enjoy the Rayokan and then get to bed. Then home in the AM or a Saturday afternoon type affair.
Any suggstions?
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I've updated the itin from what I heard here and changed the initial thread.
Still trying to figure out Hakone as I'd like to visit the hot springs! Not sure if it'll be a Sunday AM train, check in, tour, enjoy the Rayokan and then get to bed. Then home in the AM or a Saturday afternoon type affair.
Any suggstions?
http://wikitravel.org/en/Oku-Hida_Onsen_Villages
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I appears that you're visiting Takayama. So you could extend your time in that area by an extra day - visit a hot spring in Oku Hida - and skip Hakone altogether.
http://wikitravel.org/en/Oku-Hida_Onsen_Villages
http://wikitravel.org/en/Oku-Hida_Onsen_Villages
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You can ride the Odakyu 'RomanceCar' Limited Express from Shinjuku to Hakone-Yumoto for 2,020 {including the reservation fee} each way. The train is direct, and takes 85 minutes.
Or you can obtain a special two-day Hakone Freepass for 5,000. It also includes other local transportation services and provides discounts to area attractions.
If you're staying somewhere other than Shinjuku in Tokyo, use Hyperdia to add in the subway station where you originate.

