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jib71 Feb 4, 2021 6:21 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33015431)
2nd day of the 2nd month in a year ending 22 = 2.2.22

In which calendar does the year end 22?

LapLap Feb 4, 2021 6:28 am


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 33015575)
In which calendar does the year end 22?

Goodness, I am soooo far away from writing the date every day that I added another year onto this one. Subliminally I must be desperate to put as much distance between last year and this year as possible.

Oops! Next year is the once a century Setsubun. Got it! :tu:

jib71 Feb 4, 2021 6:51 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33015588)
Oops! Next year is the once a century Setsubun. Got it! :tu:

Last year was Reiwa 2, so we had 2.2.2
It was also a sei-reki palindrome 2020.02.02
There may also be Reiwa 22 in 19 years

jib71 Feb 5, 2021 2:02 am

Actually, after considering this I think that Setsubun no hi coinciding with 2.2.2 or 2.2.22 will be vanishingly rare in both Western and Japanese calendars, because setsubun no hi usually falls on February 3rd. This year's February 2nd setsubun is a "once in four years" kind of exception to keep the date aligned with the start of spring as determined by the orbit of the earth around the sun. The calendar gets whacked into alignment with the seasons by means of a leap day every four years (with additional fine adjustments that we don't need to get into here).

In 2022, setsubun no hi will fall on Thursday, February 3rd.
Last year's setsubun no hi was Reiwa 2.2.3 and it was not a palindrome.

From next year, setsubun no hi will fall on February 3rd except in years that follow leap years, when it will fall on February 2nd:
https://dengekionline.com/articles/61893/

I can't get my head around how it is that setsubun no hi can fall on February 4th, but it sometimes does - In 1984, the vernal equinox first day of spring fell on February 5th and shunbun no hi was the preceding February 4th.

LapLap Feb 5, 2021 10:10 am


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 33017481)
Actually, after considering this I think that Setsubun no hi coinciding with 2.2.2 or 2.2.22 will be vanishingly rare in both Western and Japanese calendars, because setsubun no hi usually falls on February 3rd.

Thank you for this, I really had no idea that Setsubun ever fell on any other date than the 2nd. I enjoyed the convenience of remembering 1st Jan, 2nd Feb, 3rd Mar (Girls’ Day), 5th May (Children’s Day), 7th Jul (Tanabata - date varies). But it makes sense when one understands the link between Setsubun and the lunar calendar - and no imposed Christian Saint to fix a celestial occurrence to a set feast day (as happens with St Joseph and the Spring/Vernal Equinox and St John and the Summer Equinox/Solstice).

You’ve fully answered (beautifully!) the question I didn’t understand enough to have asked.

Im a new user Feb 5, 2021 11:50 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33018155)
Thank you for this, I really had no idea that Setsubun ever fell on any other date than the 2nd.

For clarification, there is risshun which is determined by the position of the sun and setsubun is the day before risshun.

LapLap Feb 5, 2021 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by Im a new user (Post 33018412)
For clarification, there is risshun which is determined by the position of the sun and setsubun is the day before risshun.

I see, so during 2013, 2014, 2017 & 2018 risshun fell on the 3rd February which would have meant Setsubun was on the 2nd. These were formative years for LapChild and I would have paid more attention to this annual observance than I ever had before, I see where I got the notion that it was a 2.2 event now. What a ninny!

Im a new user Feb 5, 2021 1:29 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33018613)
I see, so during 2013, 2014, 2017 & 2018 risshun fell on the 3rd February which would have meant Setsubun was on the 2nd. These were formative years for LapChild and I would have paid more attention to this annual observance than I ever had before, I see where I got the notion that it was a 2.2 event now. What a ninny!

From 1985 to 2019 russhun fell on the 4th of February so setsubun was on the 3rd.

Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 33017481)
I can't get my head around how it is that setsubun no hi can fall on February 4th, but it sometimes does - In 1984, the vernal equinox fell on February 5th and shunbun no hi was the preceding February 4th.

It has to do with leap days in the Gregorian calendar. There is a chart on Wikipedia (in Japanese). Setsubun is on the 2nd in 2021 (令和3年) and the previous time was in 1897 (明治30年). Setsubun was on the 5th in 1984 and the next time is in 2104.

LapLap Feb 5, 2021 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by Im a new user (Post 33018654)
From 1985 to 2019 russhun fell on the 4th of February so setsubun was on the 3rd.It has to do with leap days in the Gregorian calendar. There is a chart on Wikipedia (in Japanese). Setsubun is on the 2nd in 2021 (令和3年) and the previous time was in 1897 (明治30年). Setsubun was on the 5th in 1984 and the next time is in 2104.

That chart for risshun is quite different from the English one, the four years I mentioned were on the 3rd February but observed in Japan on the 4th.
At least I have something to keep me challenged this lock down, it’s going to take me a while to get my head around all (or rather the pertinent parts of) this.

Im a new user Feb 5, 2021 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33018698)
That chart for risshun is quite different from the English one, the four years I mentioned were on the 3rd February but observed in Japan on the 4th.
At least I have something to keep me challenged this lock down, it’s going to take me a while to get my head around all (or rather the pertinent parts of) this.

The English chart is for the GMT+0 time zone. You have to convert it to Japanese time (GMT+9).

LapLap Mar 6, 2021 12:26 pm

We are resigned to the idea of no Japan visit this year. What I am not resigned to, having had such a success with it last year, is not having Shiso (green perilla).

I popped some seeds in the freezer for a night a couple of weeks ago and put them in some little pots to germinate, indoors by our bedroom window. They’re just starting to come out, but I’ll leave them to get hardier before I put them in flower pots outside as slugs and snails love them when they are young and tender (Shiso will resist them as well as caterpillars fine once they get a bit bigger).

I’d like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If you’re in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you haven’t yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.

BeachRat Mar 6, 2021 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33081960)
We are resigned to the idea of no Japan visit this year. What I am not resigned to, having had such a success with it last year, is not having Shiso (green perilla).

I’d like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If you’re in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you haven’t yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.

And if you ever have a lot of extra leaves, it’s time to make shiso pesto! A really nice twist from the standard basil variant.

LapLap Mar 6, 2021 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by BeachRat (Post 33082027)
And if you ever have a lot of extra leaves, it’s time to make shiso pesto! A really nice twist from the standard basil variant.

Isn’t it? I posted some tips on making this exact same thing in post 184
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32598679-post184.html

freecia Mar 6, 2021 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33081960)
We are resigned to the idea of no Japan visit this year. What I am not resigned to, having had such a success with it last year, is not having Shiso (green perilla).

I popped some seeds in the freezer for a night a couple of weeks ago and put them in some little pots to germinate, indoors by our bedroom window. They’re just starting to come out, but I’ll leave them to get hardier before I put them in flower pots outside as slugs and snails love them when they are young and tender (Shiso will resist them as well as caterpillars fine once they get a bit bigger).

I’d like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If you’re in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you haven’t yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.

I'm thinking of trying it with hydroponics using the kratky method
since I am not great/experienced with plants and this seems to give a little more leeway for absentminded waterers.

Thanks for the reminder! Time to buy some green shiso seeds https://www.chopstickchronicles.com/...loring%20agent.

freecia Mar 6, 2021 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by freecia (Post 33082167)
Thanks for the reminder! Time to buy some green shiso seeds https://www.chopstickchronicles.com/...loring%20agent.

I fell down the perilla seed hole and got some green and red shiso from eBay to try. I also found a (local-ish to me) Asian variant seed distributor Kitazawa Seed https://www.kitazawaseed.com/seeds_perilla.html which stocks Japanese and Korean perilla seeds for those growing and cooking their way around the world. I've seen Nukazuke kits but this is the first time I've seen a tsukemono seed kit https://www.kitazawaseed.com/chef_gardens.html

LapLap Mar 7, 2021 1:45 am


Originally Posted by freecia (Post 33082925)
I've seen Nukazuke kits but this is the first time I've seen a tsukemono seed kit https://www.kitazawaseed.com/chef_gardens.html

Do you know what the “red mustard” is in Japanese. It’s not a tsukemono vegetable/herb I’m familiar with and I can’t work out what it would be.

Edit - I suspect it’s 赤大葉高菜(あかおおばたかな) Aka Obaa Takana, Red (big leaf?) Takana.
I only know Takana as green, perhaps the red is best pickled in some way as red shiso (red perilla) is.

jib71 Mar 7, 2021 1:55 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33083039)
Do you know what the “red mustard” is in Japanese. It’s not a tsukemono vegetable/herb I’m familiar with and I can’t work out what it would be.

Edit - I suspect it’s 赤大葉高菜(あかおおばたかな) Aka Obaa Takana, Red (big leaf?) Takana.
I only know Takana as green, perhaps the red is best pickled in some way as red shiso (red perilla) is.

I think it's a "karashina" - Varieties on this page include "Red Leaf Mustard"
https://foodslink.jp/syokuzaihyakka/.../karashina.htm

LapLap Mar 7, 2021 2:11 am


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 33083042)
I think it's a "karashina" - Varieties on this page include "Red Leaf Mustard"
https://foodslink.jp/syokuzaihyakka/.../karashina.htm

I don’t think I have enough years of life left in me to get to try, let alone feel any familiarity for, all the Japanese vegetables. As I make discoveries, more pop up. And then you find out that a certain farmer has successfully started a small business introducing or re-introducing another amazing crop from somewhere else in Asia and another has re-kindled interest in a historic but forgotten kind.

Last year I got to find out about this vegetable which was eaten in Kyushu - but it was a vicarious experience, never had the chance to eat it myself. Problem is that I identified it, relayed the information, found out that it was a water vegetable picturesquely and laboriously harvested by hand from a raft, and now I can’t remember the name.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5b35bb60d.jpeg

(Tsuburina was a different vegetable I tried in Tokyo, gorgeous, looks like it’s frosted with ice)

EDIT - floating vegetable is junsai ジュンサイ, watershield in English.
https://visitshirakami.com/blessings/a-guide-to-junsai/


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...86f1cef15.jpeg

AlwaysAisle Mar 25, 2021 7:18 am

Curry Udon (カレーうどん)
 
When LapLap started this topic one year ago who would thought we will be still doing this a year later.

Now, I made curry udon this time, my favorite dish! I know this is not a fancy dish by any stretch of imagination but I will never say no to curry udon. Curry udon is so easy to make especially if you have left over Japanese curry. First, the ingredient:

Japanese curry (reference post #58 of this tread ;))
Soba/udon soup
Thick udon (my preference)
Long onion/scallion (for garnish)

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...13d30cde0a.jpg

Soup for curry udon is so simple. Make soba/udon soup as a direction on soup base or soup concentrate, then mix Japanese curry and soba/udon soup 50:50. That is it, simply heat the content.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...65559bab6d.jpg

Cook udon noodle, follow the direction on the package.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7915e5500a.jpg

All cooking is done. In a bowl place soup, noodle, and long onion/scallion for garnish.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...da39206abb.jpg

Again, this is my personal favorite. Also, it is my personal preference to use thick udon noodle, not soba noodle which is thinner noodle. I personally think thick noodle go so well with curry soup. Personally curry udon over curry soba, thick Sanuki type udon noodle over thin Inaniwa type udon noodle.

Last year I was at Shinjuku station heading to my afternoon appointment. It was a good time to grab lunch and had an urge for curry udon. There is stand up soba shop at JR Shinjuku station at South entrance, Lumine side, which this soba stand is there at that location as long as I can remember, I think the shop is there from '70s and before, Wen up there and I found out ownership change and name of the soba shop changed, and now they only serve soba noodle, no udon noodle. How can I have curry soba!? Could not believe they no longer doing udon and could not have curry udon! I was so disappointed. :(

I know, this is my personal preference. There are people who will rave curry soba.

jib71 Mar 25, 2021 8:33 am

Do you know the history of curry udon? I've read various theories - that it started in the Meiji era, or in the post-war years. I find it interesting that the British are supposed to have introduced curry to Japan. Noodle curry is hardly known in Britain, but in the south of India and Sri Lanka, it's a popular dish, with rice noodles:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...sala_Curry.jpg

MSYtoJFKagain Mar 25, 2021 12:43 pm

I ordered some fresh ramen noodles from Sun Noodles and they arrived today. Very excited to put a delicious pair of bowls together tonight for my wife and I.

AlwaysAisle Mar 26, 2021 10:24 am


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 33125427)
Do you know the history of curry udon? I've read various theories - that it started in the Meiji era, or in the post-war years.

One of popular story seems to be curry udon started at a soba shop Sanchouan (三朝庵) at Waseda in Tokyo, unfortunately this shop closed on 2018. Widely accepted story is that around 1904 the owner Sanchouan started curry flavored udon soup dish.

When Meiji Era started on 1868 Japan opened its border to outside, suddenly European and the U.S. culture flooded into Japan and anything European and the U.S. became very trendy, Traditional soba shop like Sanchouan was loosing business to more trendy European/the U.S. type establishments. Story has it that the owner of Sanchouan made curry flavor soup for udon and became a hit among young college kids form near by Waseda University.

But I also heard somewhere that the owner of Sanchouan was not the person who came up with curry flavor soup for udon. Other were already doing similar kind of thing and the owner of Sanchouan has decided to make own, some say that the owner of Sanchouan is credited for making curry udon popular.

P.S.
The owner of Sanchouan is also credited for katsudon. Story has it that Sanchouan was located at a college town of Waseda so the owner of Sanchouan frequently tried to come up with dishes liked by young college kids.

jib71 Jun 1, 2021 9:01 am

Perhaps they've been around forever, but I have only just discovered Shio Lemon Kaki Peanuts. Worth trying:
https://r.r10s.jp/ran/img/1001/0004/...30022697_1.jpg

Nagasaki Joe Jun 10, 2021 6:34 am


Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle (Post 33125261)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...da39206abb.jpg

Again, this is my personal favorite. Also, it is my personal preference to use thick udon noodle, not soba noodle which is thinner noodle. I personally think thick noodle go so well with curry soup. Personally curry udon over curry soba, thick Sanuki type udon noodle over thin Inaniwa type udon noodle.

Last year I was at Shinjuku station heading to my afternoon appointment. It was a good time to grab lunch and had an urge for curry udon. There is stand up soba shop at JR Shinjuku station at South entrance, Lumine side, which this soba stand is there at that location as long as I can remember, I think the shop is there from '70s and before, Wen up there and I found out ownership change and name of the soba shop changed, and now they only serve soba noodle, no udon noodle. How can I have curry soba!? Could not believe they no longer doing udon and could not have curry udon! I was so disappointed. :(

I know, this is my personal preference. There are people who will rave curry soba.

A picture speaks a thousand words. After seeing this photo and much deep reflection, I think I may have been overly harsh in my previous criticism of Japanese curry in the 冷やし中華 thread. Although I prefer Indian, Sri Lankan, and most other Asian curries to those of Japan, Japanese curry has improved over the years (there are many more varieties now) and curry udon, as pictured here, may be Japan's crowning curry achievement, if I only had a beer to go with it. What can I say, perhaps it stimulates my dormant umami receptors in a way that other Asian curries do not. Although I'm not familiar with the soba shop you mention on the Lumine side, there was also a standup soba shop (that's been in existence since at least the early 1970s) at the underground entrance to the Kinokuniya Bookstore between Shinjuku Sanchome Station and Shinjuku Station that I believe offered a similar dish.

Nagasaki Joe Jun 10, 2021 8:02 pm


Originally Posted by evergrn (Post 32264610)
I was going to the Japanese market in Central but they closed and then even Kotobukiya closed in Porter, so there was no Japanese-run grocery store for a short while.


Originally Posted by evergrn (Post 32266988)
Glad to hear that Ebisuya is doing well. You know the one at Central?! That was where I went the most!


Originally Posted by weegiewife (Post 32281553)
jeez, I remember the store at Central Square from childhood. I was sad when it closed.


Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle (Post 32265946)
Wow, you know the Japanese grocery store used to be located at Central?

The name of the Japanese grocery store in Central Square (on the corner of Prospect Steet and Mass. Ave) was Yoshinoya, IIRC. I used to live within walking distance from it in the early 1970s when I lived in Cambridge and Boston before heading to Japan and shopped there occasionally. Does anyone know when it closed? When my wife moved back with me to Boston for a few years she avoided Yoshinoya due to high prices and bought most of her Japanese groceries in Chinatown. Back in the early 70s, other than Yoshinoya, the only other outlet for Japanese groceries to my knowledge was Erewhon (owned by Michio Kushi) on Newbury Street. Although a Macrobiotic store, they were one of the earliest importers of Japanese foods such as adzuki beans, soba/udon noodles, green tea, ban-cha, hoji-cha, and mugi-cha. Of course, they did not offer much in the way of processed foods other than furikake, miso, tofu, tamari soy sauce, natural instant ramen, and boxed cereals (in later years). Their brown rice though was sourced in the US, mainly from an organic grower in Texas.

The Japanese restaurant scene in Boston has changed a lot over the years. The only Japanese restaurants (if you can call them that) I can remember existing around 1971-72 were those that were part of Michio Kushi's macrobiotic empire, namely, Sanae on Newbury Street and The Seventh Inn on Boylston Street. Of course, they did not serve white rice, so I don't think that many Japanese expats or tourists ate there. However, they were pioneers in natural food cuisine and I can remember eating tofu cheesecake and tofu salad dressing in Boston and NYC macrobiotic restaurants decades before I ever saw them served in Japan. IIRC, there was also a Benihana operating around this time not far from the Arlington Street T stop (I think in the old Statler Hilton Hotel). A high-class Suntory restaurant opened in 1976-7 on Newbury street across from Charlie's Saloon (which was next to Erewhon). Other Japanese restaurants opened up over the years, many of them Korean and Chinese owned. I don't get back to Boston that often anymore, but I have visited the Japanese restaurant court in Porter Square several times and know one of the restaurant operators there. Is anyone familiar with the old Tenmi macrobiotic restaurant in Shibuya (which used to be located next to the train tracks)?

evergrn Jun 12, 2021 12:39 am


Originally Posted by Nagasaki Joe (Post 33319691)
The name of the Japanese grocery store in Central Square (on Prospect Steet) was Yoshinoya, IIRC. I used to live within walking distance from it in the early 1970s when I lived in Cambridge and Boston before heading to Japan and shopped there occasionally. Does anyone know when it closed? When my wife moved back with me to Boston for a few years she avoided Yoshinoya due to high prices and bought most of her Japanese groceries in Chinatown. Back in the early 70s, other than Yoshinoya, the only other outlet for Japanese groceries to my knowledge was Erewhon (owned by Michio Kushi) on Newbury Street. Although a Macrobiotic store, they were one of the earliest importers of Japanese foods such as adzuki beans, soba/udon noodles, green tea, ban-cha, hoji-cha, and mugi-cha. Of course, they did not offer much in the way of processed foods other than furikake, miso, tofu, tamari soy sauce, natural instant ramen, and boxed cereals (in later years). Their brown rice though was sourced in the US, mainly from an organic grower in Texas.

I live in Boston many years ago, so I don't remember a lot of things. But I think you're right that it was called Yoshinoya. I believe it closed a few years before I left Boston, so I want to say they closed maybe 13~15yrs ago. When I was there, they had Yoshinoya (Central), a market in Porter Sqr, and a little place called Cherry Mart on Newbury. I remember Cherry Mart for some reason even though I don't think I ever went inside. The one in Porter Sqr was definitely the busiest but also expensive. But I recall Yoshinoya being cheaper. The cheapest was this place called Reliable Market or something in Somerville, which was 1/2 Korean, 1/2 Japanese. During my Boston years, the Japanese grocery business seemed to be pretty tumultuous as Yoshinoya's closing was followed soon by the Porter one's closing. Cherry Mart had closed somewhere along the way. And Boston didn't have any purely Jpn market until two new ones opened up right around the same time - one in Medford, another in Brookline Village. The one in Brookline Village was very convenient to Longwood Medical, but for some reason it never seemed to take off. The Brookline Village one closed pretty quick. I guess the one in Medford's still operating. I think AlwaysAisle mentioned somewhere upthread there's a new place now.

Nagasaki Joe Jun 12, 2021 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by evergrn (Post 33322403)
I live in Boston many years ago, so I don't remember a lot of things. But I think you're right that it was called Yoshinoya. I believe it closed a few years before I left Boston, so I want to say they closed maybe 13~15yrs ago.

The link below confirms the name was Yoshinoya. According to one Yelp review, Yoshinoya closed in 2007, about 14 years ago, so you were right about that.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/yoshinoya-cambridge

AlwaysAisle Dec 14, 2021 9:39 am

Matsusaka Beef
 
I understand this thread is about having meals at home when we are restricted from going out during the pandemic. But I did not want to start a new thread and this thread has been going strong about food.

Looks like people are moving again domestically in Japan, although international visitors to Japan are still restricted. I made this trip to Matsusaka in Feb. 2020, things were starting to slow down but things were not shut down yet.

I like food and when traveling I tend to choose a local flavor. This post will be about a fancy meal, although I have not posted about fancy meals here at FT. There are enough people who post about Michelin starred restaurants here, and I do not fancy Michelin starred restaurants so never felt like posting about fancy meals here at FT. But I will try this time.

I was at Nagoya and had a little bit of free time to myself. I decided to have Matsusaka beef sukiyaki at Matsusaka. Matsusaka beef is as good as Kobe beef, but I think even among Japanese Matsusaka beef maybe a little less known. For sure outside of Matsusaka, Matsusaka beef may not be readily available compared with Kobe beef. I am sure I could have found a place around Nagoya station for Matsusaka beef, but I had little time for myself so decided to take a side trip to Matsusaka. Matsusaka is a city little more than 100 km south of Nagoya in Mie prefecture. Matsusaka is located at the entrance to Ise Shima region of Mie. From Nagoya it is choice of JR Line or Kintentsu Line to Matsusaka. For me it is no brainer, Kintetsu Limited Express to Matsusaka. Who can say no to Kintetsu Limited Express? More about Kintetsu Limited Express on this website.

Kintetsu Limited express train I took from Nagoya to Matsusaka was ran by Urban Liner.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f8988b3cb4.jpg

Urban Liner used to run on Nagoya - Osaka (Tsuruhashi, Uehonmachi, and Nanba) non-stop limited express service. But now Kintetsu has introduced new Hinotori trains on this route that Urban Liner is now serving other limited express services in Kintentsu Line. Urban Liner has a Deluxe Seat, a regular seat is 2x2 seat but Deluxe Seat is 1x2 seating with 320 yen additional from a regular seat regardless of distance. Of course, I went for Deluxe Seat. :)

The picture of Urban Liner train is at Kintetsu Nagoya station. Next to it is an ad for Matsusaka beef sukiyaki restaurant Gyu-Gin Honntenn (牛銀本店, website in Japanese only), 15 min. walk from Matsusaka station. This is a nice restaurant which was established in 1902 specializing in beef dish. This is not where I had sukiyaki but this is not a bad place either. For this resturant advance reservation is recommended and there is 2 people minimum.

Limited Express ride to Matsusaka is 1 hr. and 7 min. from Kintetsu Nagoya. Urban Liner at Matsusaka station.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1166bb086a.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b340afdead.jpg

I decided to go to Matsusaka at the last minute, so I did not have any specific Matsusaka beef restaurant in my mind. There is a small tourist information center next to the station and there I ask for a recommendation for Matsusaka beef sukiyaki place with no reservation and will take one person. The tourist information suggested Taiya Ryokann (鯛屋旅館, website in Japanese only) which is a small ryokan which serves lunch and 5 min. walk from the station. This ryokan dates back to 220 years ago, it is not fancy at all compared with Ritz-Carlton but typical Japanese ryokan. Pretty much everything is in Japanese only, meals at tatami room (sitting down on a tatami floor with low rise table). This may not be for everyone, but was a very nice place and I had no problem.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c35eed0a25.jpg

I came all the way to Matsusaka so I decided to splurge and went tokujo (特上) sukiyaki lunch. Not like I will do this often. First, otooshi (お通し), a small dish appetizer.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4e59723012.jpg

Soon followed by Matsusaka beef sukiyaki.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f4d5b32d21.jpg

A server will assist you in cooking sukiyaki at the table.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d28de3cab6.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6b86bd97f2.jpg

Having sukiyaki with raw eggs, the standard for sukiyaki.
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Some who had sukiyaki in Japan may notice there is so little sauce (soy sauce + mirin + sugar) in a pan. This is Matsusaka style sukiyaki cooking. "Yaki" of sukiyaki is 焼き which means to grille but you may have seen sukiyaki with a lot more sauce in the cooking pan, where looks more like simmering in a sauce rather than grilling on a pan. The server who served me at this place told me that "simmering in a sauce" type sukiyaki cooking has become so popular in Japan that there was a period many sukiyaki restaurants in Matusaka have switched to "simmering in a sauce" type cooking. But lately, there is a move to go back to Matsusaka style sukiyaki cooking in Matsusaka where a minimal amount of sauce is used just for flavoring and actually grill meat on a pan.

This was very fine sukiyaki. Glad I made a trip to Matsusaka. Matsusaka is not a tourists place like Ise Shima region of Mie prefecture. Compare with Tokyo or Nagoya there will be minimal non-Japanese spoken and menus at restaurants will be likely in Japanese only. But it is nice to be at a place like Matsusaka, getting out of big city of Tokyo, Nagoya, or a tourist place like Kyoto. This side trip to Matsusaka was a nice way to get out from the city and same time have nice Matsusaka beef sukiyaki. It was time to head back to Nagoya. The next Kintetsu limited express train to Nagoya was by Ise-Shima Liner, lucky me! Went for Deluxe seat again (additional 320 yen). Ise-Shima Liner is a train made as a tourist train between Osaka/Nagoya and Ise Shima area. Beside Deluxe seat, there are group compartment type seating. Small snack stand and smoking room.
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Back to Nagoya, this is JR Central Towers at Nagoya station where headquarter of JR Tokai is located. One of the towers from 15 fl. up is occupied by Marriott Hotel. Lower floor is Takashimaya department store. Can go up to 15-18 fl. area and have a view but there are high rises around Nagoya station where the view may be blocked by high rise nearby.
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This was a nice side trip I had from Nagoya. People are starting to move again, ANA and JAL are increasing domestic flight frequencies although not back to the pre-pandemic level yet. Cannot let the guard down yet but hope we are slowly moving back toward what used to be.

MSYtoJFKagain Dec 14, 2021 11:37 am

A bright side of the pandemic is that there is now a website that will ship Japanese (and other Asian) sundries overnight to us. They stock shokupan, natto, yuzu, a whole slew of sweets/chips, pantry items, fresh/dried noodles, frozen dumplings/snacks and hard to find vegetables.

rustykettel Dec 14, 2021 8:20 pm

Thank you AlwaysAisle! Was just thinking about this thread as I placed an end of the year Amazon.jp order for various items including calendars.

MSYtoJFKagain, which site are you using? I've noticed increasing missing items at the local Asian groceries.

freecia Dec 15, 2021 1:03 am

Thank you for the beef and train report. That's a good portion of my usual JP vacation right there.

I haven't ordered from CrowdCow but I've seen it mentioned on reddit in conjunction with wagyu* when looking up cow shares https://www.crowdcow.com/products/search?q=japanese%20wagyu Costco has JP wagyu at this time of year, too, and I am a weirdo who thinks good beef would be a great gift to receive (except we ran out of freezer space long ago) https://www.costco.com/beef.html?typ...eef_attr-Wagyu

We've been using SayWeee! for local Asian grocery delivery. Popular items like LeTao cheesecakes can sell quickly.

This video about owning and running a sento also brought home the vacation nostalgia

* Edit: Relink for Japanese wagyu as the wagyu category https://www.crowdcow.com/wagyu/beef mostly lists US wagyu farms.

MSYtoJFKagain Dec 15, 2021 7:15 am


Originally Posted by rustykettel (Post 33813274)
Thank you AlwaysAisle! Was just thinking about this thread as I placed an end of the year Amazon.jp order for various items including calendars.

MSYtoJFKagain, which site are you using? I've noticed increasing missing items at the local Asian groceries.


Umamicart is the website. They are VERY prompt, especially with customer service. They have refunded me for frozen/perishable items that have been delayed due to holiday season slowdowns (even though the products arrived perfectly fine). The free shipping over $50 was a major sell as other nationwide websites charge exorbitant delivery fees IME. I have an order showing up today with curry chicken buns, curry blocks, tofu skin rolls (fresh!), along with some Korean sundries like gochujang and kimchi.

EDIT:

They seem to have a fairly limited shipping range. I think they're based in NYC and ship to New England and down through DC (possibly VA/NC)

Gradfly Dec 15, 2021 8:02 am

I used Crowd Cow for Thanksgiving and I can vouch for the Japanese A5 that they sell. Mine were from Kagoshima and Miyazaki. I have pics somewhere of the steaks that I can post.

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As wrapped from the box


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Top Sirloin (left two), Chuck Eye


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Yakiniku and Hotpot for Thanksgiving.


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After recommended two-day thaw

LapLap Dec 20, 2021 6:25 am

Festive Greetings from England (courtesy of the Sainsbury’s Supermarket Chain)


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MSYtoJFKagain Dec 20, 2021 6:33 am

This week's order from Umamicart is heavy on natto. This holiday season has had too much heavy food!

For anyone looking to get good fresh ramen/soba noodles. Sun Noodles does a home delivery as well. Here is their website. I keep my freezer stocked with their kaedama packets. I find their other ramen packs to not be worth the extra money.

kevincrumbs Dec 20, 2021 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33828458)
Festive Greetings from England (courtesy of the Sainsbury’s Supermarket Chain)

Oh dear...

I live in the States, so I am used to seeing all sorts of weird and non-traditional sushi rolls but this certainly takes the cake!

LapLap Dec 20, 2021 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by kevincrumbs (Post 33829454)
Oh dear...

I live in the States, so I am used to seeing all sorts of weird and non-traditional sushi rolls but this certainly takes the cake!

I am reliably informed that the taste and texture fail even to match the promise of its lamentable visual appeal.

As for “taking the cake” I have taken on the challenge of converting Mr and Miss LapLap to the joys of British non-meat mincemeat which embodies the taste profile of Christmas Pudding and Christmas Cake and is typically found in Xmas Mince pies. They are not fans. I’ve picked on Taiwan and launched a violent assault on their cuisine. Mincemeat with quince might have ruined their snowflake crisps and be a disappointing substitute for the pineapple in pineapple cakes but these fusions have made mincemeat palatable to the Japanese members of my family as well as to French mincemeat resistant friends - Win!!!

freecia Dec 21, 2021 9:44 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 33829582)
I am reliably informed that the taste and texture fail even to match the promise of its lamentable visual appeal.

I couldn't identify what was in the center and had to google it. I really wouldn't have guessed this combination other than sausage.

6 Pork sausage and bacon California rolls with cranberry chutney, sweet chilli sauce, crispy onions and paprika flakes
I put this more in the category of Kimbap/Gimbap as my (Korean heritage) partner said bap's more a thing you make with leftovers which I equate with anything rollable is fair game.

Is there a traditional Japanese/fusion dessert which is like 酥 (su) cake (similar to moon cake)? Shortbread texture does describe it a bit better. Not really a dorayaki, taiyaki, obanyaki, and I forget the name of the one of a filled crisp shell. None of those have the same kinds of calorie bombs though mochi anko has a lot more sugar than I was aware of.

LapLap Dec 21, 2021 11:50 pm


Originally Posted by freecia (Post 33833779)
I put this more in the category of Kimbap/Gimbap as my (Korean heritage) partner said bap's more a thing you make with leftovers which I equate with anything rollable is fair game.

I agree with your partner. We actually don’t have anything against the ingredients in this culinary gang bang, but the manner of their fusion in this roll is… unbecoming and deeply unflattering to all. Cooked well, handled thoughtfully, they could make a sincere and tasty onigirazu - but the reduced shelf life would discount this option as a festive “on the go” supermarket offering. Could be worth trying on Boxing day (12/26) with some salted rice and nori, but perhaps not with vinegared sushi rice.
I’m looking to make Brussel Sprout kimchi this year, we’ve already fallen hard fir cauliflower jangajji


Originally Posted by freecia (Post 33833779)
Is there a traditional Japanese/fusion dessert which is like 酥 (su) cake (similar to moon cake)? Shortbread texture does describe it a bit better. Not really a dorayaki, taiyaki, obanyaki, and I forget the name of the one of a filled crisp shell. None of those have the same kinds of calorie bombs though mochi anko has a lot more sugar than I was aware of.

Mochi is my perdition, and the sheer variety of foods that use pounded mochi rice or mochiko is staggering, not just in Japan. But, yes… mooncake,

Closest I know of in Japan is Kuri Manju which is baked rather than steamed. This is what I had originally had in mind for my quince and mincemeat before I went the Taiwanese inspired pineapple cake route. Funnily enough, as we ate the last of the quince mince cakes (each is tiny, about the circumference of your thumb and first finger) MrLapLap said they reminded him of manju and he thought they’d do well in Japan. And, again, you nailed it; shortbread does indeed describe this kind of pastry but it’s different enough to meld with the quince mince rather than just offer a case to entomb it as a pit of over seasoned sludge.
I got a request for another batch, so my mission definitely succeeded.

LapLap Dec 28, 2021 12:34 pm

Brussels Sprouts kimchi is awesome!

I used the recipe here - https://friedgreenkimchi.com/2015/11...prouts-kimchi/ - but added just a little of the initial brine, not the whole lot as liquid will continue to seep out of the sprouts when fermenting and overdilute the finished kimchi juice (which is perfect for a Bloody Mary)

The Brussels Sprouts get active very quickly and generate a lot of gas, so only recommended if you have a seal on your pickling container that keeps air out but lets gas escape (I use a crock with a water seal). I don’t believe burping once a day will be enough for this project.

If you want a quick crunchy kimchi with a vibrant green colour that’s ready within three days, then quarter each of the Brussels Sprouts before adding the kimchi paste. If you’re OK with the sprouts softening just a little and having a slightly more developed flavour at 5-7 days then cutting each sprout in half as suggested is fine.

Personally, I’ve always loathed Brussels Sprouts. This is the only way I’ve not just tolerated but actively enjoyed this vegetable. The recipe is excellent and gives a great result.


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