Refused entry at Tokyo restaurant
#46
Join Date: Apr 2016
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It wasn't the size of the bar. It wasn't all the other 'reasons' people are coming up with.
It is an aversion to foreigners. I get it.
I just recognize it for what it was and moved on.
I wouldn't hesitate to visit Japan again. I absolutely loved my visit. But it is what it is. And you just spend your money where people welcome you, and not where they don't want you.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2015
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But in all seriousness... I frankly love Japan, but the people who talk about discrimination and foreigner/gaijin aversion are more likely to be correct than the ones trying to defend them. I'm not saying that everyone is racist but it is highly prevalent and fully even into the upper reaches of the government. Take for instance:
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/b...immigrant.html
Japan has a history of paying actual citizens of foreign descent to leave. This is an article from 2009, but the first time I'd heard about this was at least 25 years ago how the government created a special program to pay anyone of African descent to leave Japan and live in Brazil. I didn't actually believe it at the time, but then this article came out over a decade later which makes me think there was some truth to the first time I heard the story. This story also popped up the other day:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...hnic-identity/
Although he apologizes for it later due to the controversy, you have to consider what he was actually saying, and the pride with which he originally said it. Japan is Japanese only... and this is coming from one of the top leaders in the government. And of course:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-applications/
I think this last one speaks for itself.
Now... I'm not saying they're wrong or right. Ethnocentrism and racism have recently been repackaged as "populist" and have gained a lot of traction worldwide in recent years. I think I don't need to point out the various current world leaders that fall under this flag. However, most countries go through phases of "populism" that ebb and fade. In the case of Japan, at least according to the Deputy Prime Minister, it has lasted for 2,000 years. I don't agree with it but at the end of the day, it's their country.
#48
Join Date: May 2016
Location: The Land of the Rising Yen
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Yes, this happens in Japan especially in the entertainment/hospitality industry (ironically). Small local establishments see themselves as informal clubs. Even an unknown Japanese customer would get the cold shoulder. However, said Japanese would also understand the 'rules' and politely excuse themselves. Bring a foreigner into that scenario and boom. Red flags and paranoia abound.
However, it IS illegal, even though enforcement is spotty at best. Many shops try to explain it away by saying that admitting foreign guests would discomfort their regular customers and cost them business. But frankly, that's too bad. Open to the public means ALL the public. Especially in such an international city as Tokyo, with the Olympics coming this year.
There was a famous (locally) case several years ago of a caucasian man (American by birth but naturalized Japanese citizen) being refused entry into a public bath merely for being foreign looking. His wife could enter, one of his daughters could as she looked more Japanese but the other could not as she resembled her father more. He sued and won a settlement from the business.
However, it IS illegal, even though enforcement is spotty at best. Many shops try to explain it away by saying that admitting foreign guests would discomfort their regular customers and cost them business. But frankly, that's too bad. Open to the public means ALL the public. Especially in such an international city as Tokyo, with the Olympics coming this year.
There was a famous (locally) case several years ago of a caucasian man (American by birth but naturalized Japanese citizen) being refused entry into a public bath merely for being foreign looking. His wife could enter, one of his daughters could as she looked more Japanese but the other could not as she resembled her father more. He sued and won a settlement from the business.
#49
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Most gay bars have "admission criteria" posted on their websites or other directories, indicating what body type / hair style / Japanese proficiency / ages .. etc they would admit.
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