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Originally Posted by ainternational
(Post 31619728)
Small world. Looks like just another dreary day. Shame that everything is closed.
I think everything shut down way way too early. |
Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 31619775)
I have seen worse rain in my time in Tokyo.
I think everything shut down way way to early. |
Having been in Hakone town yesterday, it is remarkable to see the amount of water now running down the river. Hopefully my flights are fine but my family members booked lots of alternatives in case.
Anyone know if limo buses or NEX gets going first? Just based on prior heavy rain events. Or just pay for taxi to NRT. Cost not an object. |
Originally Posted by Topcare
(Post 31619810)
Having been in Hakone town yesterday, it is remarkable to see the amount of water now running down the river. Hopefully my flights are fine but my family members booked lots of alternatives in case.
Anyone know if limo buses or NEX gets going first? Just based on prior heavy rain events. Or just pay for taxi to NRT. Cost not an object. Efit: looking at the limousine bus website, they seem to plan to start operations around 5am. |
Concurrent earthquake and typhoon. This is a fun night.
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Originally Posted by Mizunara
(Post 31619918)
Concurrent earthquake and typhoon. This is a fun night.
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M5., but out in the ocean, so no place got any higher than Shindo 4.
Still, I can't remember being shaken by a typhoon and an earthquake at the same time before. |
Originally Posted by hailstorm
(Post 31619933)
M5., but out in the ocean, so no place got any higher than Shindo 4.
Still, I can't remember being shaken by a typhoon and an earthquake at the same time before. |
The eye just made landfall in Shizuoka. The wind is pretty gnarly now in Kanagawa, enough to make my building shake.
Watching the news, and it seems that about 1,500 people are currently camping out at Narita. |
Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 31619821)
Normally the busses are more weather stable. But difficult to know how it will work out tomorrow.
Efit: looking at the limousine bus website, they seem to plan to start operations around 5am. |
The winds are kicking in here in central Tokyo. Can hear it over my TV shows.
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They will do an emergency release from the Shiroyama Dam at 10pm. Could affect quite a lot of people in Kanagawa.
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Everybody at Tokyo area please be careful. Predicting movement of hurricane/typhoon is still little but of inexact science. Even over East Coast of the U.S. where hurricanes hit, forecast warn people as when a hurricane will make a land. However, the exact time a hurricane make a land can be easily more than 6 hrs. off from forecast.
Forecast for Typhoon no. 19 previously forecasted to make a land sometime during Saturday afternoon, but Typhoon no. 19 is moving little slower than forecasted. Typhoon no. 19 made a land at Izu peninsula (southwest of Tokyo) around 7 p.m. Japan time on Saturday. As of 8 p.m. Saturday Japan time Typhoon no. 19 is near Odawara moving toward north-northeast with speed 35 km.hr. Current movement of Typhoon no. 19 is toward Tokyo metropolitan area. Typhoon no. 19 is currently has wind speed of 40 meters/sec (90 miles/hr) and recording maximum wind speed of 55 meters/sec (123 miles/hr.). It is likely Tokyo has not experienced worse of Typhoon no. 19 yet. |
Power just went out where I am in southern, inland Kanagawa. The fun continues.
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Toshima Ward, Tokyo:
Special Warning (特別警報) was issued, asking residents to take immediate shelter. Special Warning was established by an authority about 10 years ago indicating possible immediate danger to people in the area. Itabashi Ward, Tokyo: Local ward government of Itabashi is encouraging local residents to take shelter and make use of shelters opened by local ward authorities. Setagaya Ward, Tokyo: Heavy rain warning. Possible flooding and mudslide. |
ANA:
Cancelled all domestics and international flights at NRT on Sunday, 13th. JAL: Many flights have already been cancelled. |
Hi,
Stay safe everyone! TBS |
Free Wi-Fi:
Cell phone companies are providing free Wi-Fi during Typhoon on. 19 at Tokyo, Kanagawa, Saitama, Chiba, Tochigi, Gunma, Ibaraki, Shizuoka, Nagano, Yamanashi, Niigata, Fukushima, and Miyagi prefectures. This free Wi-Fi will appears as "00000JAPAN". |
Iwaki City, Fukushima:
City has issued evacuation directive to all 340000 residents of the city. |
JAL:
All flights out of NRT is cancelled for Sunday, 13th. |
Need some advice guys.
So the MEX --> NRT flight that was supposed to leave this morning is now leaving tonight, presuming it isn't cancelled. My connecting flight to Bangkok has been cancelled 100% confirme.d ANA says all flights on Oct 13th cancelled as well causing an even bigger backlog. Do I roll the dice and get to NRT early on Oct 14th hoping they'll put me on any connecting flight (at this point class of service doens't matter) OR just go ahead and get my 100k ANA points back and just book another flight routing to another city? |
Originally Posted by PointsPanda
(Post 31620662)
Need some advice guys.
I was at Tokyo during last month's Typhoon no. 15. A day after typhoon NRT was pretty much back to usual in terms of flight schedule, but catering could not have supply delivered. Flights had small plastic plate of meal, no bread, no salad, no sweet, nothing else. It was same in First and Business. Yes, First and Business class passengers got served same small plastic plate meal served in economy and that was it. |
I could cancel the entire trip including the MEX to NRT portion and get my full 100k points back, but then I would be looking at buying an extremely expensive last minute economy ticket from MEX to BKK plus lose my flight back from MNL to MEX via NRT.
I can't plan the ticket again at some other time, I am going for a variety of business events including an event I am speaking at, cannot cancel. I was looking it seems there are still quite a few seats availabile on various airline on Oct 14th from Tokyo to Bangkok. For the 2nd portion of the trip I could care less of what kind of food will be available, its only a 5-6 hour flight from Tokyo to Bangkok. In normal circumstances, I wouldn't want to fly economy for such a long flight but given the current circumstances its fine with me could care less. If I was flying in business, even with ...... food I can laydown and get some rest even better. My real question is: Say this flight from MEX to NRT takes off tonight, which I think it will, once I get to NRT if i just grab my bags and take whatever economy flight to Bangkok, will that cancel the return leg? (my original ANA flight from NRT BKK has been cancelled, and I wouldn't have made it in time anyways) |
Originally Posted by PointsPanda
(Post 31620750)
Say this flight from MEX to NRT takes off tonight, which I think it will, once I get to NRT if i just grab my bags and take whatever economy flight to Bangkok, will that cancel the return leg? (my original ANA flight from NRT BKK has been cancelled, and I wouldn't have made it in time anyways)
You are not the only person who got a flight cancelled out of NRT due to Typhoon no. 19. There are thousands of people who got their flight cancelled, there will be back log of those people trying to fly out NRT or HND as soon as flights resume. If you reached NRT and grabbed your bags, what make you think you will able to grab a seat on any flight to BKK in next a day or two? If you try stand by, then do you think you will be put on top of the stand by list, where likely there will be literally hundred of people on standby list from cancelled flight of previous days due to Typhoon no. 19.? People who paid expensive full fare, people with elite level of frequent flyer status will likely be ahead of you on stand by list. If you try to get on non-ANA flight out of NRT to BKK then likely you have to pay expensive last minute fare, if there is any seats available... |
Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
(Post 31620800)
If your return MNL-TYO (HND?NRT) -MEX reservation is on separate ticket, then return flights will not be cancelled if you skip NRT-BKK segment. If your entire round trip is on one ticket, then yes your return portion will be cancelled if you skip NRT-BKK segment.
You are not the only person who got a flight cancelled out of NRT due to Typhoon no. 19. There are thousands of people who got their flight cancelled, there will be back log of those people trying to fly out NRT or HND as soon as flights resume. If you reached NRT and grabbed your bags, what make you think you will able to grab a seat on any flight to BKK in next a day or two? If you try stand by, then do you think you will be put on top of the stand by list, where likely there will be literally hundred of people on standby list from cancelled flight of previous days due to Typhoon no. 19.? People who paid expensive full fare, people with elite level of frequent flyer status will likely be ahead of you on stand by list. Another option for me is now that those 15k ana points transferred if I get get through to ANA I can cancel the full roundtrip and then book a star alliance award from anywhere in the US for 115k points and then pay to get to If you try to get on non-ANA flight out of NRT to BKK then likely you have to pay expensive last minute fare, if there is any seats available... Think you're exaggerating regarding limited space to BKK. There are 9 airlines flying dozens of flights a day between the 2 city pairs, I looked on google flights, there is tons of space on Oct 15th and even some flights still left on Oct 14th with space with some budget carriers to BKK. However, I will talk to ANA first, I been on hold for about 2 hours now, I think i'll eventually get through. Whether there is space on ANA's flight is another story, yeah if I wait for space with ANA as a traditional carrier with only 2-3 flights a day yeah I might wait for many days but on any carrier in any class i don't think it will take so long, but the question is if I do that if it cancels my other tickets, esp if that connecting flight was cancelled. |
Well it's over and it was a total nothing burger. Meteorologists were predicting two days ago, but it didn't fit the super typhoon narrative the media had whipped up so instead we got a load of hype and a bunch of unneeded transport closures.
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Originally Posted by PointsPanda
(Post 31620828)
Yes the ticket is roundtrip on same reservation, however how am I supposed to catch a connecting flight that was cancelled and doesn't even exist anymore?
Think you're exaggerating regarding limited space to BKK. There are 9 airlines flying dozens of flights a day between the 2 city pairs, I looked on google flights, there is tons of space on Oct 15th and even some flights still left on Oct 14th with space with some budget carriers to BKK. However, I will talk to ANA first, I been on hold for about 2 hours now, I think i'll eventually get through. Whether there is space on ANA's flight is another story, yeah if I wait for space with ANA as a traditional carrier with only 2-3 flights a day yeah I might wait for many days but on any carrier in any class i don't think it will take so long, but the question is if I do that if it cancels my other tickets, esp if that connecting flight was cancelled. The other issue is unless you have a valid onward flight from TYO when you attempt to check in for your MEX flight, you probably will not be allowed to board. |
Makes you wonder if it was a nothingburger why they decided to cancel all flights today as well.
Is anyone else trying to reach ANA? I called their US number have been on the phone on hold now for over 3 hours (no exagerration), has anyone been able to get through? I realy just need them to answer the question I asked above. If I fly to Tokyo and catch whatever cheap flight to Bangkok, will the rest of the itinerary be cancelled even though the connecting flight i was supposed to take was cancelled, or do I HAVE to fly with ANA to Bangkok on whatever flight they put me on in order to not cancel the other half of my reservation?
Originally Posted by rustykettel
(Post 31621002)
ANA will either eventually rebook your cancelled flight onto another one or refund your miles since your trip hasn't started. On an award ticket, ANA will be more reluctant to reroute you on another carrier than if it's a cash ticket. You could ask ANA if they'll allow you to skip the TYO-BKK segment and resume your trip from BKK but if ANA doesn't allow it, your onward flights (BKK return) will be cancelled. And if they do allow it, you are solely responsible for getting there.
The other issue is unless you have a valid onward flight from TYO when you attempt to check in for your MEX flight, you probably will not be allowed to board. Interesting, so if I catch tonights flight to NRT then the trip's already started and they wont be able to refund my miles anymore.... Yes that is the main problem i'm worried about is ANA doesn't allow me to skip leg, they must rebook me but next flight out is 5 days out or something crazy. I'd much rather pay $500 for a last minute ticket with whatever airline in economy from TYO to DMK/BKK then sit in Tokyo for 5 days which my travel insurance would not completely cover beyond a paltry $250 or so. |
Anyone in Tokyo could report if the trains are expected to be back to anytime today? Does it seem like Monday flights are also expecting cancellations?
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Originally Posted by invalyd
(Post 31621360)
Anyone in Tokyo could report if the trains are expected to be back to anytime today? Does it seem like Monday flights are also expecting cancellations?
JR East said yesterday that they are expecting service cancellation to be till least noon on Sunday. Rail companies are saying the they will slowly resume the service once they have safety inspection cleared. Airline has not said anything about Monday flights but I suspect there will be some cancellation/delay due to residual aircraft and crew positioning situation, since ANA and JAL both cancelled all operation at NRT on Sunday. However, both ANA and AJL did not cancel their entire operation at HND on Sunday, though. Last month when I flew out of NRT a day after Typhoon no. 15, there were good number of people in the terminal prepared to spend second night because they could not get rebooking. There had to be additional good number of people at hotels and at their homes spending second night due to rebooking. Saw few people getting at check-in counter telling an agents, "I know other passengers got rebooked on today's flight. I need to get back today and cannot wait till tomorrow!" |
Originally Posted by 5khours
(Post 31620861)
Well it's over and it was a total nothing burger. Meteorologists were predicting two days ago, but it didn't fit the super typhoon narrative the media had whipped up so instead we got a load of hype and a bunch of unneeded transport closures.
In other news, rugby match in Kamaishi has been canceled. |
I just going to list current access to airports as of 7:20 a.m.
HND: Tokyo Monorail: Not in service. But aiming to resume service around 8:30 a.m. with reduced schedule Keikyu: Airport Line, Haneda Airport-Shinagawa and Haneda Airport-Kawasaki. Service resumed with reduced schedule. Other portion of Keikyu line not in service. Limousine Bus: Resumed service on 6:30 a.m. with very limited service in the morning, expecting more frequent service in afternoon. NRT: Keisei: Operating with reduced schedule. Looks like Skyliner is running, also. JR: Not in service. Limousine Bus: Resumed service on 6:30 a.m. with very limited service in the morning, expecting more frequent service in afternoon. |
Originally Posted by hailstorm
(Post 31621604)
You might want to turn on NHK. Might help you get out of your bubble.
In other news, rugby match in Kamaishi has been canceled. I watched NHlK and read their news, there are damages, but considering the media hype the damages are rather limited. On a light note, my local 7-11 is open a fully restocked Aeon was reopening just now and fresh supplies being delivered, which makes me laugh again at the people hoarding food and clearing out the shelves Friday and Saturday. |
Kawasaki’s looking really bad.
Tap water no longer potable in my hometown. The river there has never even come close to flooding since I was born, but it’s now on the verge. Nagano looks so bad. When we have windstorm here that knocks limbs off trees, it’s a big deal here (USA). People (myself included) take time off work when stuff happens. Over there, they get one disaster after another, but stores and trains and public infrastructure get fixed up fast. There must be workers working tirelessly behind the scenes to restore everything quickly each time, prioritizing their work over damages to their own homes/mansions. |
Power got knocked out last night to a lot of areas here in Kanagawa, but it's not nearly as bad as how Nagano looks. Electricity got restored to my place about half an hour ago, so props to Tepco and all the other infra workers out there this morning.
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 31621743)
I have to agree with 5khours here. I have taken an hour long walk around my neighbourhood and adjoining areas in Tokyo. I have yet to see a single incident of damage. Greatest inconvenience is that Starbucks is closed, and people have not been out to sweep up the fallen leaves.
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Originally Posted by 5khours
(Post 31621831)
Not to say typhoons don't cause damage and loss of life, but compared to many, many other typhoons that hit the Tokyo area this one was mild. And relative to the media hype this one was as I said a total nothing burger. (As meteorologists predicted) it barely met the criteria for a typhoon when it made landfall. The media hype forced public officials and transport companies to over-react.
I too was inconvenienced, but overall I'm glad that people like you are having less influence in bullying others into making unsafe decisions. |
Originally Posted by hailstorm
(Post 31621856)
I too was inconvenienced, but overall I'm glad that people like you are having less influence in bullying others into making unsafe decisions.
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In other news, it looks like the JR lines downtown are starting to get moving again. The Yamanote Line is slowly spooling up again as of 09:30. The monorail has been back since 08:00 and all of the Keikyu Line is coming back now, so Haneda is at least reachable by train.
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Originally Posted by 5khours
(Post 31621900)
Has nothing to do with making safe or unsafe decisions, it's about making rational decisions. Japan is usually pretty good at this, but this time around the media caused everybody to act like lemmings.
You're absolutely wrong, and that's the last I have to say on the matter. |
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