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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by freecia
I was walking around Ginza on a weekend night and noticed several nicer model sedans with drivers inside waiting at the curb without the taxi lights. Some had a little antenna with a blue light on front bumper, another had the white seat covers. They didn't have the uber signs I'm used to seeing in front windshield, either. Are these some sort of town car service waiting for their patrons inside Ginza hostess clubs or other upscale venues? Or do the really upscale (venues or households) also keep in-house drivers?
Most likely what you saw is a service called haiya (ハイヤー) by Roma-ji. It is a kind of taxi service but aimed at VIP service. I think limousine service in the U.S. is what comes to closest. In Japan corporate upper managements and some politicians use ハイヤー service. Yes, back alley of Ginza where expensive clubs which are frequented by those types of people is a place in Tokyo you see a lot of ハイヤー. Also Yakuza (Japanese gangsters/mafia) uses ハイヤー. If you see ハイヤー pulls up and somebody coming out of a car then you know that person is somebody very important or somebody very questionable

Originally Posted by freecia
I also saw more women in kimono walking down the street than usual around 8 pm. Some were probably below mid-thirties but others were not. A few were probably women returning from a day of shopping or dressed up for a nice dinner but I did see one nodding at a club tout on the street before going into a combini. Were a majority of these traditionally attired women on their way to work?
Yes, many hostesses who work at upper scale clubs at Ginza (well, many not be upper scale in terms of service and dcor of clubs, but sure those are damn expensive place!) do wear kimono. It is possible that they were hostesses going to work. 夜のお仕事。
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 3:22 pm
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So, would ハイヤー be a suitable alternative for those who want more predictable pricing than uber?
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 6:14 pm
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ハイヤー price quotes?

http://www.nihon-kotsu.co.jp/hire/purpose/airport.html
18,000 pickup from Haneda
35,000 pickup from Narita

MK looks like 1 hr min is 11,270
http://www.tokyomk.com/hire.html#contents2_3
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by angra
So, would ハイヤー be a suitable alternative for those who want more predictable pricing than uber?

ハイヤー (Hired car service) is very similar to a limo/town car service in major US cities. Many people in Japan using uber black used hire before uber became available. You can just just call a hired service like Kokusai or MK. Most of the Uber black service is provided by these hired car companies who contract directly with Uber. Uber is just easier to use because it's quicker (no wait times on the phone), don't need to explain your pickup location, easier to handle payment, and you don't need to communicate as much with the driver about destination/route.

Some of these hired companies now have their own apps, which make them easier to use. Because of the issue with surge pricing, I've largely switched back to Kokusai for airport runs.
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