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Using suica
I understand that these can be used on jr rail, subways and buses in Tokyo area. I have read that they can be used for other purchases in convenience stores. How have you used suica cards? Did you use only for travel or did you also use in convenience stores?
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They can be used in convenience stores like a debit card! Very efficient option for me.
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Not all convenience stores, typically mostly the ones in or near a station.
If you have to load the card with cash, which AFAIK is the only way available to short term visitors, I am not sure it is any more convenient than just paying. SUICA cards can also be used anywhere in Japan that accepts this type of card. |
When I jog to the gym, I don't like to bring change.
It works at the vending machine inside my gym. |
Use it at most convenient stores and in many taxis. Saves having change in your pockets.
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I could see that this would be good for staying in the shinjuku area. Having a card to tap in and out of the subway makes things easier. It's an easy process to replenish?
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Originally Posted by steve4031
(Post 24229513)
It's an easy process to replenish?
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I don't use the Metro much so I top up at a convenience store. Takes about 10 seconds.
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Thank you. This technology is amazing to me. The United States are so far behind the rest of the world. It's a pain to buy a metro card in washington's metro. Credit card readers never work. Chicago its a crap shoot. Since I live in Chicago I can auto reload.
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Thanks to those who updated by my post -- I have seen it in taxis but didn't know it worked outside the environs of the station.
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It saves on having change and also reduces receiving change. I'm familiar with Japanese coins but tapping the IC card makes it quicker to check out and stash less small coins in my purse.
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Used mine at the convenience store underneath the Hyatt Regency, and many other places.
In HK, a similar card 'Octopus' can be used for all mass public transportation; at 7-11, Circle K; major drug store chains, fast food restaurant chains, supermarket chains; school cafeteria; parking meters, AND as security pass card for private housing compounds - same card for paying subway fare and getting into your building lobby. |
I have the ICOCA IC Card which I bought from Osaka.
All IC cards in Japan have been integrated. Since you have SUICA, you can use it in Osaka as well or other parts of Japan. For such a big country, it's nice to know that just 1 card (almost) can meet your transportation needs. |
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 24228905)
SUICA cards can also be used anywhere in Japan that accepts this type of card.
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I had a layover in NRT recently and brought my SUICA card from a previous trip to Japan to see if there was still a balance.
I stayed airside during my layover and could not find any of the vending machines or stores that would accept it. I'll be back in a couple months and leaving the airport again. On my first trip I used it for train fare as well as buying food and beer on the train. I might have used it in a convenience store. |
Originally Posted by edweird
(Post 24234280)
I stayed airside during my layover and could not find any of the vending machines or stores that would accept it.
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Originally Posted by steve4031
(Post 24230153)
Thank you. This technology is amazing to me. The United States are so far behind the rest of the world. It's a pain to buy a metro card in washington's metro. Credit card readers never work. Chicago its a crap shoot. Since I live in Chicago I can auto reload.
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We have the PRESTO card in the greater Toronto Area, which is valid on trains, buses, and some subways (and I think streetcars) across the region, with more systems being added in further away areas (Niagara etc.). You can't use it in convenience stores, but there has been discussion about this. Mine is set to automatically reload from my credit card, you can also top it up by credit, debit or cash at stations, and cards online.
In London, England, the Oyster card is similar - you can use it on a variety of transport, but again, I don't think you can use it at convenience stores. |
Originally Posted by evergrn
(Post 24235107)
They don't have anything like this anywhere in America?
For example, Chicago Transit Authority replaced their contactless Chicago Card with Ventra Card. Ventra cards may optionally work as a prepaid debit card; they can be used as credit card in stores. NYC MTA is also in the process of replacing their magnetic MetroCards, and looks like they will go with the same system. The implementer for both systems are the same company: Cubic Transportation. |
Originally Posted by emma69
(Post 24235494)
In London, England, the Oyster card is similar - you can use it on a variety of transport, but again, I don't think you can use it at convenience stores.
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Originally Posted by ravishah
(Post 24235694)
True but a lot of places are starting to accept the wireless payment that is pretty common in many new credit and debit cards. Think it is limited to £20 per transaction at the moment but I use it pretty much all the time.
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Originally Posted by edweird
(Post 24234280)
On my first trip I used it for train fare as well as buying food and beer on the train. I might have used it in a convenience store.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan...st-trains.html On trains which accept IC card payment, you can request a receipt. Handy printer picture -> https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2007_2/20080301.pdf |
Originally Posted by msb0b
(Post 24235690)
Credit card companies are deeply entrenched in American market, and it seems like Visa PayWave/Master PayPass-based systems are in the works for public transportation payment systems.
For example, Chicago Transit Authority replaced their contactless Chicago Card with Ventra Card. Ventra cards may optionally work as a prepaid debit card; they can be used as credit card in stores. NYC MTA is also in the process of replacing their magnetic MetroCards, and looks like they will go with the same system. The implementer for both systems are the same company: Cubic Transportation. List of "smart cards": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smart_cards I live in SEA, and I've never even heard of Orca Card. I bet most of these cards aren't even really widespread and most are for trains/buses only. |
T-money in Seoul can also be used on public transportation and convenience stores.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-money There are a few transportation systems which accept EMV contactless credit cards. I think London Transport is one of them? |
Originally Posted by lcpteck
(Post 24233955)
I have the ICOCA IC Card which I bought from Osaka.
All IC cards in Japan have been integrated. Since you have SUICA, you can use it in Osaka as well or other parts of Japan.
Originally Posted by emma69
(Post 24235494)
In London, England, the Oyster card is similar - you can use it on a variety of transport, but again, I don't think you can use it at convenience stores.
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What is the minimum amount konbini will let you add to Suica? Do the lopi machines let you add value too?
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 24248655)
The main difference between Oyster and Suica (and other Japanese IC cards) is the former offers substantially discounted fares
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Suica is so amazing I've opted to get a Suica credit card. :p
It auto charges at the gates when the balance falls below a preset limit. |
Originally Posted by BuildingMyBento
(Post 24249701)
What is the minimum amount konbini will let you add to Suica? Do the lopi machines let you add value too?
Originally Posted by joejones
(Post 24234092)
There are a few exceptions: Sendai, Hiroshima, Toyama, Kagoshima and Kumamoto. Suica works on JR in [some?/most?/all?] of these places but not on the private/municipal lines.
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Using suica
Fuji-Q express also doesn't take suica at Otsuki. You have to pay in cash for tickets.
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OP, IC cards are worth it. In Tokyo, you have the option of either PASMO or SUICA. For a visitor, there would be no difference, besides the issuer (PASMO is Tokyo Metro and SUICA is JR East). Both are valid across many railway companies and useful for vending machines and conbini purchases
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Originally Posted by Taiwaned
(Post 24229213)
When I jog to the gym, I don't like to bring change.
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Originally Posted by gohima
(Post 24256009)
OP, IC cards are worth it. In Tokyo, you have the option of either PASMO or SUICA. For a visitor, there would be no difference, besides the issuer (PASMO is Tokyo Metro and SUICA is JR East). Both are valid across many railway companies and useful for vending machines and conbini purchases
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And if the penguin doesn't swing it: SUICA means watermelon.
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ICOCA is way more clever a name. Leave it up to Kansai to come up with that one :D
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Originally Posted by KPT
(Post 24286962)
ICOCA
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In Japan, how can you tell if a particular establishment accepts the Suica card? Is there a symbol by the register or do you just need to ask?
Also, does 7-11, Family Mart, and Lawson's take U.S. credit cards? |
Originally Posted by prkzoom
(Post 24299608)
In Japan, how can you tell if a particular establishment accepts the Suica card? Is there a symbol by the register or do you just need to ask?
http://www.jreast.co.jp/suica/use/sh...x/image_01.gif The reader itself will look something like this: http://www.jreast.co.jp/suica/use/sh...x/image_05.jpg Though there are sometimes multiple terminals for the various kinds of IC payment systems, when you ask to use Suica, the correct terminal will light up. |
Originally Posted by armagebedar
(Post 24299646)
Yes, you'll see the following mark on or near each register:
Though there are sometimes multiple terminals for the various kinds of IC payment systems, when you ask to use Suica, the correct terminal will light up. |
If you have an Android phone with NFC capability, do check out this Suica reader app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...careader&hl=en
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