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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 6:28 pm
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Dinner Party Gift Question

I was invited to a dinner party this weekend.

I presume it would be customary that I bring something (or am I off base here?)

I have no idea what so ever to bring as a gift. I do not know these people very well either so I have no idea what they like

Any ideas??

I hope this is the right forum to ask this. My other choice was omni but I wanted this to be directed to the Japanese or at least Japan travel audience

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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
I was invited to a dinner party this weekend.

I presume it would be customary that I bring something (or am I off base here?)

I have no idea what so ever to bring as a gift. I do not know these people very well either so I have no idea what they like

Any ideas??

I hope this is the right forum to ask this. My other choice was omni but I wanted this to be directed to the Japanese or at least Japan travel audience

thanks
Re they Japanese? And if so are they in Hiroshima?

If yes to #1, it would be very appropriate to bring something simple like sweets or savory snacks that they could eat later within their family.

If they are Western, I would say the best thing t do is treat it as you would at home. Some folks bring things, others do not.

If in Hiroshima, then anything from Tokyo will be well received. Not merely for the fact that it is from Tokyo per se, but more because you made the effort to share something they would not otherwise get. At the GHT the sweet shop has some candy covered chocolates (looks a little like jelly bellies actually) and a selection fo those would be great for a non-Tokyo person.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 8:29 pm
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Re they Japanese? And if so are they in Hiroshima?

If yes to #1, it would be very appropriate to bring something simple like sweets or savory snacks that they could eat later within their family.

If they are Western, I would say the best thing t do is treat it as you would at home. Some folks bring things, others do not.

If in Hiroshima, then anything from Tokyo will be well received. Not merely for the fact that it is from Tokyo per se, but more because you made the effort to share something they would not otherwise get. At the GHT the sweet shop has some candy covered chocolates (looks a little like jelly bellies actually) and a selection fo those would be great for a non-Tokyo person.
Yes & Yes

Japanese and in Hiroshima.

I will go down and look for those

thanks for the idea ^
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 9:20 pm
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Just bring a bottle of wine.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 10:05 pm
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Just bring a bottle of wine.
Would disagree with that LD. Unless it were wine from VA that had been brought with as it would be "something from home".

A bottle of wine is not something which is unique to an area and to get a decent bottle in Tokyo you need to pony up big coin. The money you could spend on a average bottle of wine here will get you a very nicely wrapped and unique (two bonus factors in this fair land) gift that is specific to a given shop or region.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 1:29 am
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A bottle of wine is not something which is unique to an area

Well that was my thinking actually - a nicely wrapped box of regional sweets is kind of a "giri" gift, very proper, no one will complain. Whereas a Y2000 bottle of Australian shiraz or maybe a Y3000 California chardonnay, if it's a wine you like that they might not have heard of, is a bit more personal and something they might enjoy more.

It's something you'd do for a new friend who you like rather than a business acquaintance who you have to be nice to - it's less rigid and more informal. I think pretty much everyone I know would rather get a nice bottle of wine from a dinner guest than some nicely wrapped candy. But of course candy is safe, and it's not wrong (and it might be more appreciated if they're very elderly).
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 1:48 am
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Do you know if they like wine? IMO candy would be safer (and a 3000 yen bottle of wine in Tokyo is nothing), although imported single malt scotch is a classic business gift. I would avoid flowers or something that could possibly have cultural symbolism of which you aren't aware.

Whatever you get should be wrappped beautifully. It's also good for gifts to have famous brands or prestigious store labels. [Let the store warp it for you in their box or with paper/ribbon having their logo.]

If your host and hostess have spent a lot of time abroad, in some ways their expectations and ideas of etiquette for you on this occassion are likely to be closer to those of Americans living in Japan.

In any event, it's truly a special honor to be invited to dinner in a Japanese home. [As I'm sure you know, be prepared to remove your shoes at the door, so your shoes and socks should be in good condition.]
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a 3000 yen bottle of wine in Tokyo is nothing

Now that's just ridiculous.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 2:07 am
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Go to ANY basement floor of ANY department store and pick any gift at ANY price point.

They will even wrap it for you.

If you do it in Tokyo, you can bring in candy, sweets, cake or whatever that can't be found in Hiroshima without effort. It's this "thoughtfulness" that is important.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 6:29 am
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My personal opinion is not to worry about it. If you were invited to somebodys house in the U.S. and whatever gift you may get for the host will also be appropriate in Japan also.

Just like in the U.S., people you are visiting elderly or young? Do they have family? Kids are young?, etc. All those things which you may consider when visiting somebody in the U.S. will also apply in Japan.

Yes, there are etiquette and protocol when being invited by somebody in Japan which can be different from the U.S. But just like in the U.S., elderly people tend to follow those protocols more than younger people. Formal occasions those protocols are followed and on casual get together those protocols tend not to be followed much.

In formal occasions when protocols are followed, then in Japan people usually think of the host when considering the gift. Also, in formal occasions the person receiving the gift does not open the gift in front of the person who gave the gift. This comes from the idea of what important is the thought of gift giving, not the content of the gift. Especially regarding not opening the gift is still practiced widely in Japan during formal occasions.

During formal occasions a person giving the gift say 粗末な物ですが (Somatsuna mono desuga, nothing of any value) which putting yourself down when giving a gift. However, these days such is only practiced only during formal occasions.

However, if this is casual dinner party then what ever gift you will get in the U.S. will also be appropriate in Japan.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 8:05 am
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i personally, would be disappointed with candy and it would get thrown out. but then again, that is me. wine, OTOH, would be drunk.

so i guess what i am saying, is try to figure out what your host would like. blindly buying candy is stupid IMO. my friends would know candy, sweets, chocolate etc. would go straight in the bin.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 9:06 am
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Dinner Party Gift Question

Please for the sake if all that is holy, do not give anyone wine that costs 2-3000 yen in Tokyo if it is from Aus or CA. Guaranteed to be garbage. The only person who would appreciate that is wine ignorant or a starving student.

Giving candy is stupid? Sounds like someone needs to brush up on etiquette, ;-)
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 9:46 am
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I think Taiwaned is spot on. And the (domestic) airports and train stations have shops that also cater to exactly bringing gifts. Note that you can bring liquids for domestic air travel if you are flying to Hiroshima.

Regarding wine, bringing something from Virginia is not something you do unless you want to make an enemy.

I don't care for new world wine in general and don't have experience buying it in Japan. But for my beloved Burgundy then you can get quite decent stuff in the 2000-3000 range. That's what I would drink for every day. I also found that the price is not that much higher than the US for Burgundy. I also found a very decent Do for 1200 or 1400 at Tokyu Honten, which is not a cheap store.

I can't remember the name of the store, but they have a few branches around town including one on Dogenzaka in Shibuya. Imported gourmet food and booze and wine. Incredible selection of Bourbon, so that would be a gift from close to home. They also have good Burgundy.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 2:06 pm
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This is intended for an elderly person. Although the caveat here is I was invited by elderly but I do believe the party is at her daughters house. The daughter is mid 50's I think.

I have no clue as to what they would like and am not likely to find out in time either.

So if I read this right and I do understand that there are differences of opinion here on giving wine and candy.

First, I'm wine ignorant as mentioned above so I tend to shy away from bringing wine anywhere including at home in the states.

Second, I'm leaning toward the candy/sweets thing but if I've read this thread correctly, presentation seems to matter as much as content.

I will be honest, I'm not even sure how formal this will be.

I'm going into this blind but don't to break any major Miss Manner's rules starting with the gift.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 2:20 pm
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If you are staying at Grand Hyatt Tokyo, then I think this is one of great way to make use out of a concierge at the hotel. Explain to the concierge as much as you know of the person inviting you to the dinner, gender and age included and ask for suggestion for a gift from hotel concierge. Tell your budget for the gift and I am sure the concierge at the hotel will provide you with some good suggestions and where to buy gifts. The concierge can also write short note in Japanese indicating that your purchase is a gift which you can show the note to the store employee, then the store employee will wrap a gift in an appropriate way.
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