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jigri2003 Feb 10, 2016 9:12 pm

As it turns out, NH confirmed by email that MCT at NRT going from NH domestic at T1 to JL international at T2 is 110 min. The same as JL's policy for JL domestic to another airline's international flight. Unclear from their response below whether they would interline the bags even if MCT was met; perhaps separate tickets or NH to JL is an issue?

"Minimum connecting time from ANA domestic flights to Japan Airlines
international flights at Narita airport is 1 hour 50 minutes. You don’t
have enough time for transfer about your itinerary unfortunately.

Your checked baggage cannot be checked in as a through baggage
between ANA to Japan Airlines. And it takes about 10~15 minutes by
bus between terminal 1 to terminal 2. We are afraid you cannot catch
your flight for Japan Airlines."

bmwe92fan Feb 10, 2016 11:15 pm


Originally Posted by jigri2003 (Post 26166004)
As it turns out, NH confirmed by email that MCT at NRT going from NH domestic at T1 to JL international at T2 is 110 min. The same as JL's policy for JL domestic to another airline's international flight. Unclear from their response below whether they would interline the bags even if MCT was met; perhaps separate tickets or NH to JL is an issue?

"Minimum connecting time from ANA domestic flights to Japan Airlines
international flights at Narita airport is 1 hour 50 minutes. You don’t
have enough time for transfer about your itinerary unfortunately.

Your checked baggage cannot be checked in as a through baggage
between ANA to Japan Airlines. And it takes about 10~15 minutes by
bus between terminal 1 to terminal 2. We are afraid you cannot catch
your flight for Japan Airlines."

Unfortunately you don't have enough time - all that extra verbiage is their polite way of saying NO. Take the extra day and head into Tokyo (don't spend it in Narita) and enjoy the sites...

nishimark Feb 10, 2016 11:56 pm

If you don't want to cut short your stay in Kansai, have you thought about catching a different flight to NRT? Discounts airlines to NRT:
http://www.flypeach.com/home.aspx
http://www.jetstar.com/jp/en/home
http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/arrange/tr...count/air.html

thehamburglar Feb 12, 2016 1:12 pm

Landing NRT on a Sunday at 15:35 from ORD on JAL. Have a separate ticket on MU to PVG departing at 16:55, and probably not checking luggage. Both airlines appear to be terminal 2. Is that doable? Thanks!

jib71 Feb 12, 2016 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by thehamburglar (Post 26174922)
Landing NRT on a Sunday at 15:35 from ORD on JAL. Have a separate ticket on MU to PVG departing at 16:55, and probably not checking luggage. Both airlines appear to be terminal 2. Is that doable? Thanks!

It's doable if your first flight isn't delayed. But if the flight from ORD is late, you might find yourself out of pocket. You might need to collect your MU boarding pass at the connections desk at NRT, which is after security. So carry a copy of your ticket / itinerary to show the people at security.

Dsm2m2 Mar 1, 2016 1:20 pm

Looking to do:

ORD-NRT on AA

*90 minute layover*

NRT-BKK on JAL

Assuming all on one ticket and possibly having checked bags, is this doable?

msb0b Mar 1, 2016 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by Dsm2m2 (Post 26268099)
Looking to do:

ORD-NRT on AA

*90 minute layover*

NRT-BKK on JAL

Assuming all on one ticket and possibly having checked bags, is this doable?

90 minute is plenty of time. You only need to go through transit security, and your bags will be checked through.

uclacolumbiaunc Apr 19, 2016 4:36 am

KIX->HND->LAX... how does connection work at HND?
 
KIX -> HND on JAL domestic 737, HND -> LAX on AA 787, both business class.

Since KIX->HND is a japan domestic flight, do I get my passport stamped at HND (or KIX)? And do I take my luggage out at HND and switch terminals at HND and re-clear security? I have perhaps 2.5 hrs at HND until 1am flight to LAX. I heard HND is a great airport, so I hopefully won't have to waste time on clearing immigration at HND so that I will have time to check out all the amenity at HND.

By the way, how does AA serve meals for the 1am flight? I hope they wont make you eat a full dinner after 1am. So I am guessing light snack after takeoff, and then full dinner 2 hrs prior to 7pm arrival at LAX?

mrploddy Apr 19, 2016 5:42 am

http://www.haneda-airport.jp/inter/en/dept/dms_int.html

Separate terminals.

You will collect baggage and transfer over to the international terminal where you will do exit immigration.

There is a well sign posted bus from the domestic arrivals lobby to the international terminal.

AlwaysAisle Apr 19, 2016 6:17 am


Originally Posted by mrploddy (Post 26505710)
http://www.haneda-airport.jp/inter/en/dept/dms_int.html

Separate terminals.

You will collect baggage and transfer over to the international terminal where you will do exit immigration.

There is a well sign posted bus from the domestic arrivals lobby to the international terminal.

No, that is incorrect. Domestic to international connection in Japan baggage will be through checked at the origin airport, given that the connection meets minimum connection time at the specific airport and two airlines involved have internline agreement.

In OP’s situation will check-in at JAL at KIX and baggage will be checked all the way to LAX and OP will not see checked baggage at HND.

It is correct that at HND domestic and international terminal is separate. Upon arrival at HND OP will take free inter-terminal bus from domestic Terminal 1 to international terminal. At international terminal at HND there will be passport control where OP will receive a stamp on a passport.

Also, to OP you mentioned both KIX-HND domestic and HND-LAX are in business class. JL domestic 737s do not have business class. Have seen so many people making wrong assumption here at FT. OP will be flying on Class-J on KIX-HND portion and it is domestic premium economy product. “J” on Class-J comes from “Japan Airlines” but I think all those confusions comes from letter J is used for business class fare code among airlines. There is not much of service on short KIX-HND portion to begin with but OP will receive bonus miles as premium economy on KIX-HND portion, not business class bonus miles on KIX-HND portion.

AlwaysAisle Apr 19, 2016 6:30 am


Originally Posted by uclacolumbiaunc (Post 26505535)
By the way, how does AA serve meals for the 1am flight? I hope they wont make you eat a full dinner after 1am. So I am guessing light snack after takeoff, and then full dinner 2 hrs prior to 7pm arrival at LAX?

As for meal service on AA HND-LAX flight, AA does pre-ordering of meals for first and business class. Look up your reservation on AA.com and there should be section where you can pre-select your meal. There is very brief description of your meal choice.

uclacolumbiaunc Apr 21, 2016 5:37 am


Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle (Post 26505792)
No, that is incorrect. Domestic to international connection in Japan baggage will be through checked at the origin airport, given that the connection meets minimum connection time at the specific airport and two airlines involved have internline agreement.

In OP’s situation will check-in at JAL at KIX and baggage will be checked all the way to LAX and OP will not see checked baggage at HND.

It is correct that at HND domestic and international terminal is separate. Upon arrival at HND OP will take free inter-terminal bus from domestic Terminal 1 to international terminal. At international terminal at HND there will be passport control where OP will receive a stamp on a passport.

Also, to OP you mentioned both KIX-HND domestic and HND-LAX are in business class. JL domestic 737s do not have business class. Have seen so many people making wrong assumption here at FT. OP will be flying on Class-J on KIX-HND portion and it is domestic premium economy product. “J” on Class-J comes from “Japan Airlines” but I think all those confusions comes from letter J is used for business class fare code among airlines. There is not much of service on short KIX-HND portion to begin with but OP will receive bonus miles as premium economy on KIX-HND portion, not business class bonus miles on KIX-HND portion.

Do you know if I will have to leave airside to landslide to take bus at Haneda? Will I have to clear security again at international terminal? Will jal staff at Kix be able to check me in for my aa flight to lax?

CPH-Flyer Apr 21, 2016 5:46 am


Originally Posted by uclacolumbiaunc (Post 26515572)
Do you know if I will have to leave airside to landslide to take bus at Haneda? Will I have to clear security again at international terminal? Will jal staff at Kix be able to check me in for my aa flight to lax?

Yes, you will have to leave airside and be rescreened when entering the international terminal. JAL should be able to check your in on AA.

LoveMountains Apr 22, 2016 10:09 am

Hi, just bought tickets (+wife & 2 kids) for these flights:
Arrival (from Osaka, Itami) to Narita on ANA (terminal 1, domestic) - 15.30
Departure. United to ORD (Narita, terminal 1, international) - 17.55

Flights are most likely not on the same ticket (used "multiple destinations" option on ANA award booking site), but we most likely won't check in our bags anyway.

Any issues? How long does it usually take to transfer from domestic to international @ Terminal 1, Narita?
(I see above that transfer from domestic ANA, T1 to international JAL @ T2 is 110 min., but what about domestic T1 to international T1?)

Thanks.

AlwaysAisle Apr 22, 2016 10:49 am

If you purchased the ticket on ANA website at same time then most likely it is under one ticket, even though you used multiple destinations function. Any case you are transferring from NH (ANA) to NH (ANA) so should really not make any difference at all if tickets are under one or two as far as you are concerned.

Minimum connection time at NRT for NH (ANA) domestic to NH international is 45 minutes. Both NH domestic and NH international use Terminal 1 South at NRT. Upon arrival at NRT from domestic flight, there is a passport control dedicated to passengers transferring from domestic to international. This passport control is separate from main passport control where NRT departing passengers use. However, most likely big portion of passengers on ITM-NRT flight are transiting to international flight at NRT, so can be little bit of line forming at a passport control since good number of people on your flight will be transiting to international flights also. Your transit at NRT of 2 hrs. 25 min. should be more than fine.

At ITM there is a check-in area specific for passengers transiting to international flights at other airports such as HND and NRT. Check-in counter no. 11 of NH check-in at ITM is specifically for such passengers and that is where you will check-in at ITM.


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