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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 11:03 pm
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abmj-jr do you mean me ??

with spending 220 GBP on a train pass im no worried aboot another 10 GBP or so saves me waiting at the airport.

BuildingMyBento where would you suggest i go for a beer or two ?? my hotel is in the Ikebukuro area, i read that you could be anywhere in tokyo in a short time.


to recap i am gonna get the bus from the airport at hopefully 07:45 to the Ikebukuro area (dinna want to be caught up in rush hour people goin to work and all that, watch the world go by from said bus) drop my bag off at hotel and go get my train pass.

ta for the input
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 11:44 pm
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Usually quote is omitted if replying to the post immediately above. Therefore, I think abmj-jr's post is a reply to jc777.

I personally like Ikebukuro, but given that one of your destination is Hiroshima, I would pick a hotel near Tokyo or Shinagawa station where you can catch the Shinkansen trains. Ikebukuro to Tokyo station takes about 30 minutes, it's time you could be enjoying your holiday instead of being on a train.

The buses are more susceptible to surface road traffic jams than trains, but at least you should be comfortable. The trains will be punctual barring accidents, but will be crowded with commuters.
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 12:25 am
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Hi msb0b

ta for that im there for 6 days for football the extra half hour will be part of the experience

the trip to Hiroshima will an in and out job (get there a few pics a couple of beers) jist to say ive been there

goin to mount fuji too been told i could see it from my hotel as well

up to now spent over two grand and no kicked a ball yet

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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by Foxy Fox
abmj-jr do you mean me ?? ...
No, that was for the post immediately above mine which was completely irrelevant to the question.

The addendum marked "To OP" was for you.
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Foxy Fox
goin to mount fuji too been told i could see it from my hotel as well
Mt. Fuji in December is not a good time to climb, especially for novices. Conditions are poor and there is little to no support if things go wrong. There are several incidents each year of inexperienced climbers being stuck (or dying) due to sudden bad weather.

However, if you want to spend a day relaxing in a hot spring you could make a booking at an onsen hotel at one of the five lakes at the base of the mountain. (I would be careful when choosing a hotel/ryokan due to your tattoos, however.)
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 10:29 pm
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the trip to Hiroshima will an in and out job (get there a few pics a couple of beers) jist to say ive been there
Really? That's a long way to go for a few hour stay.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:00 am
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I would look for other options than Ikebukuro. It is a bit out of the way and not a very nice place. People call it Ickybukoro.

If you persist then I would advise taking the train rather than waiting 30 minutes for your bus. You are likely to find yourself ready to depart HND at 07:15ish. Take the Keikyu line to Shinagawa and then the Yamanote line to Ickyb. Costs 400 yen plus probably 200 yen for the Yamanote ride.

It might depend on the line and how far out you are but trains are not necessarily too busy very early in Tokyo. Like the Hanzomon subway line is quite empty before 08:00 inbound to Otemachi. People generally arrive at work 08:50 so will time it for that.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by gnaget
I would look for other options than Ikebukuro. It is a bit out of the way and not a very nice place. People call it Ickybukoro.

If you persist then I would advise taking the train rather than waiting 30 minutes for your bus. You are likely to find yourself ready to depart HND at 07:15ish. Take the Keikyu line to Shinagawa and then the Yamanote line to Ickyb. Costs 400 yen plus probably 200 yen for the Yamanote ride.

It might depend on the line and how far out you are but trains are not necessarily too busy very early in Tokyo. Like the Hanzomon subway line is quite empty before 08:00 inbound to Otemachi. People generally arrive at work 08:50 so will time it for that.
Ickybukuro? Do the same people who call it that also consider Tokyo to be "expensive?" I'd much rather be in Ikebukuro than Roppongi. What do they call Roppongi, "Little Lagos?"

Anyway, didn't the OP say he/she already has lodging in the Icky?
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:16 am
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Originally Posted by Foxy Fox
abmj-jr do you mean me ??

with spending 220 GBP on a train pass im no worried aboot another 10 GBP or so saves me waiting at the airport.

BuildingMyBento where would you suggest i go for a beer or two ?? my hotel is in the Ikebukuro area, i read that you could be anywhere in tokyo in a short time.


to recap i am gonna get the bus from the airport at hopefully 07:45 to the Ikebukuro area (dinna want to be caught up in rush hour people goin to work and all that, watch the world go by from said bus) drop my bag off at hotel and go get my train pass.

Well, Ikebukuro is a big transit hub in Tokyo, and is included on the Yamanote train line that forms a circle through much of the capital that the average tourist/salariperson sees. It is a good gateway to get to Kawagoe, another city with a historic bent (and known for sweet potatoes).

Wish I could assist with your beer query, but I don't drink; on the flip side, there are plenty of watering holes near Ikebukuro station, and south of it.

ta for the input
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:34 am
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Hi all

abmj-jr no worries

armagebedar not looking to climb it jist wander aroond the bottom may do the spa thing thanx for the heads up.

tcook052 i will have just flew best part oh 12 hours 4 hours on a train there and back should be fine bulleting along

gnaget thanx for that may well do

BuildingMyBento thanx for he input

canna wait

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... tcook052 i will have just flew best part oh 12 hours 4 hours on a train there and back should be fine bulleting along ...
Tokyo to Hiroshima? Not even close. Try 5 to 5-1/2 hours each way, not counting the 20-30 minutes each way to/from Icky. 11 or 12 hours sitting on trains in return for an hour or so "looking around" sounds like torture to me. If you build in an overnight at a cheap business hotel, you could actually see the Peace Park and some other sights and sample the local cuisine specialties.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 6:47 am
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The earliest departure/arrival I can find is Hikari 501 leaving Tokyo at 06:26 arriving Shin-Osaka 09:30, change to Kodama 737 leaving Shin-Osaka 09:38 arriving Hiroshima 12:19.

If the OP can get himself to Shin-Yokohama before 06:00, there's Hikari 493 leaving Shin-Yokohama 06:00 and arriving Hiroshima 10:00.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:06 pm
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The earliest departure/arrival I can find is Hikari 501 leaving Tokyo at 06:26 arriving Shin-Osaka 09:30, change to Kodama 737 leaving Shin-Osaka 09:38 arriving Hiroshima 12:19.

If the OP can get himself to Shin-Yokohama before 06:00, there's Hikari 493 leaving Shin-Yokohama 06:00 and arriving Hiroshima 10:00.
Shin-Yokohama is 45-an hour away from Ikebukuro.

Hiroshima is hardly a place people pop by from Tokyo to have a beer at and say they have been there.

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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by BuildingMyBento
Ickybukuro? Do the same people who call it that also consider Tokyo to be "expensive?" I'd much rather be in Ikebukuro than Roppongi. What do they call Roppongi, "Little Lagos?"
I call Ikebukuro as The Tijuana of Tokyo.. Besides the 自由学園明日館 and the ねこぶくろ, there's no there there.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by abmj-jr
Tokyo to Hiroshima? Not even close. Try 5 to 5-1/2 hours each way, not counting the 20-30 minutes each way to/from Icky. 11 or 12 hours sitting on trains in return for an hour or so "looking around" sounds like torture to me. If you build in an overnight at a cheap business hotel, you could actually see the Peace Park and some other sights and sample the local cuisine specialties.
Completely agree. I never set foot in the Louvre my last trip to Paris which raised a few eyebrows with family & friends. I said I could run through it just to say I was there as I had a museum pass but what's the point and what would you really get out of it? No, I'd slow down and savour your Japan experience and not try and take everything in a big gulp.
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