4 nights stopover in Japan
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4 nights stopover in Japan
I have flights with United in April/May 2013 including a 4-nights stopover in Tokyo. I have been in Kyoto, Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya and many other cities, so I am thinking of visiting Fukuoka this time. I would like to hear your suggestions on my this trip:
(1) our flight arrives at NRT at 2:15pm, is it possible to take the Shingansan from NRT to Fukuoka and go to the hotel for late check-in in Fukuoka on the same day? I don't feel like staying Tokyo and we can begin our self-guided tours in Fukuoda on next day.
(2) our flight departs at NRT at 5:25pm, is it possible to take the Shingansan from Fukuoka to NRT on the day of the departure?
(3) Should we book and stay in the same hotel in Fukuoka for all 4 nights and try the JR rails and buses for same day tour to surrounding cities or attractions? Is it not possible or too hard to travel different places each day from the hotel in Fukuoka?
(4) Do you have advices to what I must do or visit in Fukuoka and other area?
Thanks in advance for your suggestion...
(1) our flight arrives at NRT at 2:15pm, is it possible to take the Shingansan from NRT to Fukuoka and go to the hotel for late check-in in Fukuoka on the same day? I don't feel like staying Tokyo and we can begin our self-guided tours in Fukuoda on next day.
(2) our flight departs at NRT at 5:25pm, is it possible to take the Shingansan from Fukuoka to NRT on the day of the departure?
(3) Should we book and stay in the same hotel in Fukuoka for all 4 nights and try the JR rails and buses for same day tour to surrounding cities or attractions? Is it not possible or too hard to travel different places each day from the hotel in Fukuoka?
(4) Do you have advices to what I must do or visit in Fukuoka and other area?
Thanks in advance for your suggestion...
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Your times could work but you will be spending many hours on the train after hours on a plane. Assuming you get in on time and get through C&I in under an hour, you can take the Narita Express to Shinagawa, then connect to the shinKansen to Hakata (the station name for Fukuoka), arriving between 9-10 pm. You won't be able to use a Japan Rail Pass as this connection requires use of the Nozomi shinkansen. The return would leave at 8:30 am, connect at Tokyo Station and arrive at NRT by 3:30 pm. If that isn't enough time for your comfort, there are earlier trains from Hakata.
From a central location in Fukuoka/Hakata, there are several day trips available. Since you will be doing the round trip to/from NRT on 2 of your days, that leaves 2 days in the city. I think you can find plenty to keep you occupied in town but if not, try a trip down to Kumamoto. There are lots of hotels in the area of Hakata Station.
You can look at the train options at www.hyperdia.com . The system gets lost if you try to enter the full trip so break it up into segments - NRT-Shinagawa, Shinagawa-Hakata, Hakata-Tokyo and Tokyo-NRT, using the Narita Express and Nozomi.
This is likely to be a rather expensive 4 days. It might be cheaper to fly to/from FUK rather than train.
From a central location in Fukuoka/Hakata, there are several day trips available. Since you will be doing the round trip to/from NRT on 2 of your days, that leaves 2 days in the city. I think you can find plenty to keep you occupied in town but if not, try a trip down to Kumamoto. There are lots of hotels in the area of Hakata Station.
You can look at the train options at www.hyperdia.com . The system gets lost if you try to enter the full trip so break it up into segments - NRT-Shinagawa, Shinagawa-Hakata, Hakata-Tokyo and Tokyo-NRT, using the Narita Express and Nozomi.
This is likely to be a rather expensive 4 days. It might be cheaper to fly to/from FUK rather than train.
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Even on Narita Express + Shinkansen you would be stuck on the train for 7 hours vs 2 hours on a plane.
The flight options from NRT to FUK after your arrival time are (T2 indicates departure from Narita Terminal 2):
15:25 JL3053 (T2)
15:30 BC805 (T2)
17:00 NH2143
17:55 NH2145
18:00 GK127 (T2)
19:50 JL3057 (T2)
But if you insist on taking the train, and assuming you will use Japan Rail Pass, the latest train connection that will get you to Hakata is:
Narita Terminal 1
| 15:45 Narita Express 34 Arr 16:52
Shinagawa
| 17:10 Hikari 481 Arr 20:18
Shin-Kobe
| 20:53 Hikari 443 Arr 23:52
Hakata
A bit more forgiving in reverse but you still need to catch the train by 8:00 to get to Narita by 15:30.
The flight options from NRT to FUK after your arrival time are (T2 indicates departure from Narita Terminal 2):
15:25 JL3053 (T2)
15:30 BC805 (T2)
17:00 NH2143
17:55 NH2145
18:00 GK127 (T2)
19:50 JL3057 (T2)
But if you insist on taking the train, and assuming you will use Japan Rail Pass, the latest train connection that will get you to Hakata is:
Narita Terminal 1
| 15:45 Narita Express 34 Arr 16:52
Shinagawa
| 17:10 Hikari 481 Arr 20:18
Shin-Kobe
| 20:53 Hikari 443 Arr 23:52
Hakata
A bit more forgiving in reverse but you still need to catch the train by 8:00 to get to Narita by 15:30.
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I do plan to purchase Japan Rail Pass, but why can I use the Japan Rail Pass for this part of Japan? What is Nozomi Shinkansen? I will be getting 7-day Japan Rail Pass, which should allow me to use Shinkansen and all JR lines, no?
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Even on Narita Express + Shinkansen you would be stuck on the train for 7 hours vs 2 hours on a plane.
The flight options from NRT to FUK after your arrival time are (T2 indicates departure from Narita Terminal 2):
15:25 JL3053 (T2)
15:30 BC805 (T2)
17:00 NH2143
17:55 NH2145
18:00 GK127 (T2)
19:50 JL3057 (T2)
But if you insist on taking the train, and assuming you will use Japan Rail Pass, the latest train connection that will get you to Hakata is:
Narita Terminal 1
| 15:45 Narita Express 34 Arr 16:52
Shinagawa
| 17:10 Hikari 481 Arr 20:18
Shin-Kobe
| 20:53 Hikari 443 Arr 23:52
Hakata
A bit more forgiving in reverse but you still need to catch the train by 8:00 to get to Narita by 15:30.
The flight options from NRT to FUK after your arrival time are (T2 indicates departure from Narita Terminal 2):
15:25 JL3053 (T2)
15:30 BC805 (T2)
17:00 NH2143
17:55 NH2145
18:00 GK127 (T2)
19:50 JL3057 (T2)
But if you insist on taking the train, and assuming you will use Japan Rail Pass, the latest train connection that will get you to Hakata is:
Narita Terminal 1
| 15:45 Narita Express 34 Arr 16:52
Shinagawa
| 17:10 Hikari 481 Arr 20:18
Shin-Kobe
| 20:53 Hikari 443 Arr 23:52
Hakata
A bit more forgiving in reverse but you still need to catch the train by 8:00 to get to Narita by 15:30.
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I propose you fly to/from Fukuoka. If you plan to do day trips when there, there is a less expensive JR Kyushu pass you can buy:
http://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/english/railpass.html
You can probably spend three days in Northern Kyushu alone, that pass only costs Y7,000 per person.
http://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/english/railpass.html
You can probably spend three days in Northern Kyushu alone, that pass only costs Y7,000 per person.
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When I did a quick search, all I found that late were Nozomis direct to Hakata. I did not see the Hikari with connections, so my comment that you are limited to Nozomi is not correct. It would be much faster, with no connections, but as I said, you couldn't use the Pass. In my defense, I was searching for a way to get you to Hakata by 10 pm. Only Nozomi can do that.
I don't think it will be possible to get to your hotel "around 9 or 10 pm." Even if you manage to jet through arrival, get to the JR station to exchange your Rail Pass order and make reservations for the Narita Express and the shinkansen - even with all that, if you can get on the 3:15 pm N'Ex, the earliest connection for a Hikari you can make at Shinagawa is 5:10 pm, arriving at Hakata at 11:32 pm. I don't think you can make that 3:15 N'Ex but the 3:45 would still get you there in time. If you can't make that one, the 4:15 pm N'Ex will get you there in time to take the later 5:40 pm to Hakata with a connection at shin-Osaka but those connections are a little tight. None will get you to Hakata before 11:32 pm.
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I concur with RichardInSF's suggestion of JR Kyushu Pass. You can use that pass to take the Kyushu Shinkansen to Nagasaki or Kumamoto within Kyushu.
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I had also meant to venture to some of the beaches in the Fukuoka area but a combination of poor weather and too much shochu the night before meant that those plans had to be nixed.
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I propose you fly to/from Fukuoka. If you plan to do day trips when there, there is a less expensive JR Kyushu pass you can buy:
http://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/english/railpass.html
You can probably spend three days in Northern Kyushu alone, that pass only costs Y7,000 per person.
http://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/english/railpass.html
You can probably spend three days in Northern Kyushu alone, that pass only costs Y7,000 per person.
Any suggestions on what (or how) to see or visit in Fukoaka?
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You can look at the train options at www.hyperdia.com . The system gets lost if you try to enter the full trip so break it up into segments - NRT-Shinagawa, Shinagawa-Hakata, Hakata-Tokyo and Tokyo-NRT, using the Narita Express and Nozomi.
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I propose you fly to/from Fukuoka. If you plan to do day trips when there, there is a less expensive JR Kyushu pass you can buy:
http://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/english/railpass.html
You can probably spend three days in Northern Kyushu alone, that pass only costs Y7,000 per person.
http://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/english/railpass.html
You can probably spend three days in Northern Kyushu alone, that pass only costs Y7,000 per person.
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Definitely fly. Also the airport has the most convenient access to city center of any large airport in the world (that I know of).
If you haven't been to Nagasaki, you might want to do that (instead of Fukuoka?)
There are a lot of famous pottery locations around there. Kunisaki Pennisula is kind of interesting. Mt. Aso and yamanami highway are nice. I spent 3 weeks hitchhiking in Kyushu. Met of ton of people, got invited to dinner, to stay at people's homes, etc. Doubt you could still do that, but Kyushu is pretty laid back and the people are pretty friendly compared to the big Japanese cities most people go to.
If you haven't been to Nagasaki, you might want to do that (instead of Fukuoka?)
There are a lot of famous pottery locations around there. Kunisaki Pennisula is kind of interesting. Mt. Aso and yamanami highway are nice. I spent 3 weeks hitchhiking in Kyushu. Met of ton of people, got invited to dinner, to stay at people's homes, etc. Doubt you could still do that, but Kyushu is pretty laid back and the people are pretty friendly compared to the big Japanese cities most people go to.