Help for not getting lost in Japan
#16
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It's by Ruths Research and Design.
There may be better apps out there, but I thought for $1.99 it was worth it to be able to access all of my places on googlemaps info as well as the photos of the front door that I have in the notes for most places.
On a side note, if you can rent a local iPhone 4 with unlimited data for as much as a mifi then I would go for that and you can still use this app or regular old googlemaps. I so wish I were heading there!
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iPhone or standalone GPS are not super reliable for walking in the city, especially Tokyo with tall buildings and narrow side streets, as GPS requires line of sight to the sky and mutiple satellites are required for correct positioning.
If you are walking along wide boulevards or crossing parking lots or public parks, then yes it's excellent.
I used google maps (with a local data plan) and MapFan (Japanese standalone GPS app that requires no data) trying to access certain addresses and neither of them is very good. It typically lacks behind by 500m or so.
At least with google maps you can use street view to see the actual neighbourhood or things along the route.
If you are walking along wide boulevards or crossing parking lots or public parks, then yes it's excellent.
I used google maps (with a local data plan) and MapFan (Japanese standalone GPS app that requires no data) trying to access certain addresses and neither of them is very good. It typically lacks behind by 500m or so.
At least with google maps you can use street view to see the actual neighbourhood or things along the route.
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Thank you for all the responses. I usually bring a map and get the ones from the hotels, but it's almost embarrassing to say, I still manage to get lost and can't find where I am on the map. I know, pretty bad for someone who loves to travel, but it's not on my gene
So, I'm trying to take advantage of technology to make things a little easier this time.

So, I'm trying to take advantage of technology to make things a little easier this time.
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I use offmaps on my iphone. if you download the map in advance, the gps in your phone should work to locate you without a data plan. it's not perfect as others have pointed out but i found it works pretty well. I almost use the compass feature more than the physical map itself.
sometimes in the maze of small side streets, i just need a general pointing in the right direction to get out onto a bigger street where I can get on the train at a nearby station.
sometimes in the maze of small side streets, i just need a general pointing in the right direction to get out onto a bigger street where I can get on the train at a nearby station.
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Maps are quite common here but it's important to remember that up can (and usually is) any direction, not north.
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I've never used a conventional map before.and not got lost much.most of the places of interest in those cities you mentioned are easy to find. in kyoto, if you go to the info booth in the JR station they give you a bus map and thats all you need. tells you which bus goes where as well as the places of interest on it
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When it comes to portable, paper, maps ... omst Japanese people do that thing of twisting them round and round until they can see it's pointed the way they're pointing - as if the world needs to align itself with them (or as if it's impossible to imagine a direction other than forwards when looking at a piece of paper). When I see someone doing that with a map, (or worse, a nautical chart), my heart sinks.
Having said that, the old maps of Edo with all the names of the daimyo around the castle legible only when you walk around (or twist the enormous map, god forbid) to that part of the map ... those are pretty cool.
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iPhone or standalone GPS are not super reliable for walking in the city, especially Tokyo with tall buildings and narrow side streets, as GPS requires line of sight to the sky and mutiple satellites are required for correct positioning.
If you are walking along wide boulevards or crossing parking lots or public parks, then yes it's excellent.
I used google maps (with a local data plan) and MapFan (Japanese standalone GPS app that requires no data) trying to access certain addresses and neither of them is very good. It typically lacks behind by 500m or so.
At least with google maps you can use street view to see the actual neighbourhood or things along the route.
If you are walking along wide boulevards or crossing parking lots or public parks, then yes it's excellent.
I used google maps (with a local data plan) and MapFan (Japanese standalone GPS app that requires no data) trying to access certain addresses and neither of them is very good. It typically lacks behind by 500m or so.
At least with google maps you can use street view to see the actual neighbourhood or things along the route.
Since most tourists are not driving around Tokyo, I am sure they can manage.
The Navi in my car even works below ground in the Yamate tunnel, for example.
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And Wifi base stations too, though not to the same level of accuracy as GPS.
Google's Android phones and Sony's PSP PSVita have similar location services through wifi triangulation when GPS is not available. You will need a data connection for it to work.
Factory-installed automotive navigation systems may receive speed and steering input to continue estimate your location when GPS signals are not available. This feature is called dead reckoning. You can also achieve the same result with accelerometers.
Google's Android phones and Sony's PSP PSVita have similar location services through wifi triangulation when GPS is not available. You will need a data connection for it to work.
Factory-installed automotive navigation systems may receive speed and steering input to continue estimate your location when GPS signals are not available. This feature is called dead reckoning. You can also achieve the same result with accelerometers.
Last edited by msb0b; Mar 30, 2012 at 11:11 am
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When it comes to portable, paper, maps ... omst Japanese people do that thing of twisting them round and round until they can see it's pointed the way they're pointing - as if the world needs to align itself with them (or as if it's impossible to imagine a direction other than forwards when looking at a piece of paper). When I see someone doing that with a map, (or worse, a nautical chart), my heart sinks.
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Of course, the whole rotation of the pallet happens when the car is turned off... so the navi thinks you're driving in completely the opposite direction until it manages to get a good GPS fix and reset itself.
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I wouldn't mind if it worked, but it's a strong indicator IME that the person handling the map hasn't a clue. The directions you get from the person are likely to have left and right mixed up after the first turn. The nautical chart story comes from a guy I met who wasn't happy that the chart table on a yacht was facing astern. Claimed it made it hard to think straight. His navigational abilities were *&%$. Purely anecdotal, I know ... but it's something I take as a sign of low spatial intelligence now.
Last edited by jib71; Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22 am
#30
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iPhone and google maps was a great combo for me. It allowed me to get off the beaten path to explore and not worry about getting lost or asking anyone. I relied on it a lot. The only problem with google maps is that if you search for something using English the map may be displayed with Japanese characters.
try iphonetrip.com for about $12 per day with unlimited data in Japan. It works even if your phone is locked with AT&T.
Tokyo Teleport Plus for iPhone has offline maps and costs about $10.
try iphonetrip.com for about $12 per day with unlimited data in Japan. It works even if your phone is locked with AT&T.
Tokyo Teleport Plus for iPhone has offline maps and costs about $10.



