Is Japan doomed?
#106
FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 21,780
The rebuttal to that NYT op-ed: http://spikejapan.wordpress.com/2012...onn-fingleton/
#107
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Thanks for the Memories !!!
Posts: 10,737
I am always intrigued by references to "Japan" building things. It is as if people believed it were not individual firms making decisions on construction and urban redevelopment.
The Spike piece was interesting, and at times amusing. Heathrow over Narita as an airport for example.
Pass the pipe.
In general I think the biggest issue is not so much how much supply there is, it is more a function of how quickly pricing adjusts. The market, the residential and commercial sectors anyway, is highly elastic and when buildings are full prices rise. It is manageable, but it takes a bold approach to get past the short term slow down.
The Spike piece was interesting, and at times amusing. Heathrow over Narita as an airport for example.
Pass the pipe. In general I think the biggest issue is not so much how much supply there is, it is more a function of how quickly pricing adjusts. The market, the residential and commercial sectors anyway, is highly elastic and when buildings are full prices rise. It is manageable, but it takes a bold approach to get past the short term slow down.
#108




Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: UA GS>1K>Nothing; DL DM 2MM; AS 75K>Nothing>MVP
Posts: 9,417
This depends on your nationality. Americans are given a grace period after naturalizing in Japan, because the US government will not allow them to renounce citizenship if it would make them stateless.
In other countries, such as Britain, you CAN expatriate yourself while a naturalization application is pending somewhere else, so the Japanese government requires proof of expatriation as a prereq to naturalization (see here for an example).
That said, even Americans are supposed to expatriate themselves within two years after naturalizing in Japan. What happens if you don't is a separate question.
In other countries, such as Britain, you CAN expatriate yourself while a naturalization application is pending somewhere else, so the Japanese government requires proof of expatriation as a prereq to naturalization (see here for an example).
That said, even Americans are supposed to expatriate themselves within two years after naturalizing in Japan. What happens if you don't is a separate question.
#109




Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: TYO / WAS / NYC
Programs: American Express got a hit man lookin' for me
Posts: 5,271
It still depends on your other nationality, though. At the very least you have to tell the Japanese government that you hereby renounce the other nationality, which may or may not be a valid renunciation from the other country's perspective. The US won't recognize such a statement, but other countries may (I believe that most East Asian countries will).
#110




Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: UA MP
Posts: 1,701
In Japan I think it's pretty complex. For one, in most places, child care is quite difficult to obtain. Then there's the work conditions - most places just don't have the kind of work arrangements necessary for a family with two working parents.
Every day in Umeda I walk past a fairly new building (2 or 3 years old) that sits empty. I don't remember when it was built but it's always been empty.
Every day in Umeda I walk past a fairly new building (2 or 3 years old) that sits empty. I don't remember when it was built but it's always been empty.
#111
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Thanks for the Memories !!!
Posts: 10,737
?
#112




Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: UA MP
Posts: 1,701
If you took another look(I am sure you have far better things to do).....in many of the buildings you will find a floor or two empty, and just as you say, entire "new" buildings empty! Retail buildings have many empty spaces, and how many more shopping places do you need targeted at 20 something women
?
?At the same time, a lot of first and second floor spaces are filled quickly - it's just those spaces on higher floors that tend to linger. A lot of spaces in newer malls are occupied and, if a store goes out of business, a new store moves in fairly quickly.
#113
FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 21,780
Getting back to the original topic...the real question isn't whether or not Japan is doomed, but whether or not Japan is doomed any faster than the rest of the world. Because the nation that is doomed last is the winner.
#114
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ani Ichibanya
Programs: WWMFD
Posts: 6,292
#115
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NRT
Programs: Tokyo Monorail Diamond-Encrusted-Platinum
Posts: 10,048
That's a point that the Spike author prefaces with the disclaimer that it's a wholly subjective preference. It serves to highlight the subjectivity of Fingleton's comment about JFK and IAD being "potent symbols of American infrastructural decay".
#116
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boston, Jo'burg, HK
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Lifetime Diamond, CX Gold, Mrs. Pickles travels for free
Posts: 13,871
On the other hand, equating a strong yen with a strong country (among other beauts in that article) is just arrant nonsense.
#117
Original Member




Join Date: May 1998
Location: Tokyo, Japan (or Vienna whenever possible)
Posts: 6,982
Yes. That is true. That said, JFK is the biggest embarrassment in the US as far as major gateways. IAD is not terrific, but I nominate LAX for a close second.
#118
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,559
Fingleton is the author of this timeless classic:
http://www.amazon.com/Blindside-Japa.../dp/0395633168
Anything he writes re: Japan should feature a disclaimer and a link to his book.
http://www.amazon.com/Blindside-Japa.../dp/0395633168
Anything he writes re: Japan should feature a disclaimer and a link to his book.
#119
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boston, Jo'burg, HK
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Lifetime Diamond, CX Gold, Mrs. Pickles travels for free
Posts: 13,871
Fingleton is the author of this timeless classic:
http://www.amazon.com/Blindside-Japa.../dp/0395633168
Anything he writes re: Japan should feature a disclaimer and a link to his book.
http://www.amazon.com/Blindside-Japa.../dp/0395633168
Anything he writes re: Japan should feature a disclaimer and a link to his book.
But he does suffer from strange paranoid delusions.
#120
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: London
Posts: 19,077
Here's an op-ed in the NYT that takes a counter view: "The Myth of Japan's Failure" - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/op...c-success.html
Perhaps this exaggerated tug will go somewhere to helping folks arrive at a more realistic perception of the country.

