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JAL announces summer 2023 international plans, A350-1000 on HND-JFK, new intl cabin

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Old Feb 1, 2023, 7:52 pm
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Somewhat surprised to see JL9/10 HND-ORD just downgauged from a 773 to 789 for summer 2023.

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Old Feb 1, 2023, 8:44 pm
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Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
JAL said they will introduce A350-1000 on Oct. 29, but not sure if both JL 3 and JL 5 will switch to A350-1000 on Oct. 29. It is possible that only one of them will switch to A350-1000 and another will remain 777-300ER.
Just to be clear, JAL has not announced the inaugural date of A350-1000. The Japanese and English press releases only state it will be introduced on the HND-JFK route during the winter schedule, which starts on Oct 29 2023.
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Old Feb 1, 2023, 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
JAL said they will introduce A350-1000 on Oct. 29, but not sure if both JL 3 and JL 5 will switch to A350-1000 on Oct. 29. It is possible that only one of them will switch to A350-1000 and another will remain 777-300ER.
Given that JL6/5 is the "prestigious" New York flight number, I would assume they will switch 6/5 rotation to 35K first.
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Old Feb 1, 2023, 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Magnum9
Curious where you’re seeing DFW-HND flown by a 77W in March? All dates I just looked at on Google Flights show a 787 (including AA flights).
It seems to start from March 26, per Expert Flyer and JAL website
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Old Feb 1, 2023, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyerBeek
Somewhat surprised to see JL9/10 HND-ORD just downgauged from a 773 to 789 for summer 2023.

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So maybe that's where the DFW 77W comes from. Interestingly, the DFW flight is selling the F seats as J, so with ORD losing F it seems there will be no true F on JAL to the central US. (Or is there a second flight to ORD besides 9/10? I can't remember.)
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Old Feb 1, 2023, 11:17 pm
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Hmmm. Interesting find - JL741/742 is suspended starting July 1st. One of the legacy flights(together with JL745/746) continuously in operation for the past 55 years.

Could this mean Zipair will be taking over from here onwards?
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
ANA mainly flies 3-4-3 on their 77W. They have a few 2-4-3 version left, but that's the minority. I think SQ is still doing 3-3-3 as well, but I could be wrong.
SQ and KE have 9-across 777s:

https://www.koreanair.com/at/en/in-f...r-277/seat-map

https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p.../777-300ER.pdf
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 2:04 am
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My CHI to HND flight was downgraded. I am livid. I've been trying to fly JAL F for the longest time, booked it twice for the Olympics (obviously that didn't work out) and now they do this??? Now all the F.seats are of course sold out on the other routes. I'm livid. I know it's part of the game but this SUCKS so much.
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by mcs26891
My CHI to HND flight was downgraded. I am livid. I've been trying to fly JAL F for the longest time, booked it twice for the Olympics (obviously that didn't work out) and now they do this??? Now all the F.seats are of course sold out on the other routes. I'm livid. I know it's part of the game but this SUCKS so much.
Is JL not willing to work with you to rebook you on another route? (Or they just said everything's sold out and there's nothing they can do?) There must be other ORD passengers in the same situation.

​​​​I'm surprised they are not offering F on the DFW flight, even with the 77W operating the route from late March.
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by Unimatrix One
Is JL not willing to work with you to rebook you on another route? (Or they just said everything's sold out and there's nothing they can do?) There must be other ORD passengers in the same situation.

​​​​I'm surprised they are not offering F on the DFW flight, even with the 77W operating the route from late March.
Well, I booked through AA, so I'm ....ed. :/ but now I want the 20K or something miles I paid F for. Hopefully they can just refund me the difference without me cancelling, cuz who knows if that inventory will go back up...
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by mcs26891
Well, I booked through AA, so I'm ....ed. :/ but now I want the 20K or something miles I paid F for. Hopefully they can just refund me the difference without me cancelling, cuz who knows if that inventory will go back up...
So AA is just telling you "no F award inventory on other routes, sorry"? I would think that in a situation like this, the airline should be willing to open up F award inventory on an alternative flight, given that they are the ones who downgauged the flight. Maybe AA needs to call JL? Or is this kind of thing not done for award tickets and people in your situation are just SOL? If so, that does indeed suck and I would be livid too.
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 5:30 am
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Just got email of my flight from hnd to ord f reward is downgrade to j not really happy with this book it back in December so I can enjoy JL10 f flight for this august. Is this typical, anyone gotten there f back from j talking to AA or JAL? Since 80k AA was use and same flight for j is 60k
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by teltehdog
Just got email of my flight from hnd to ord f reward is downgrade to j not really happy with this book it back in December so I can enjoy JL10 f flight for this august. Is this typical, anyone gotten there f back from j talking to AA or JAL? Since 80k AA was use and same flight for j is 60k
Same boat as you here except booked with AS.
What complicates it more is that I have 2 other seats booked in J, so finding another route with 1 F and 2 J is going to be troublesome.
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by CHRoNiCWiLL
Same boat as you here except booked with AS.
What complicates it more is that I have 2 other seats booked in J, so finding another route with 1 F and 2 J is going to be troublesome.
I book total of 4 reward 1 f for me and 3 j for family. Spoke with AA they told me to talk to JAL now
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Old Feb 2, 2023, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
P.S. Looking at a seating chart of A350-900, I think another possibility for F in A350-1000 is two rows of window seats and one row on a center seat, with a total of 5 F seats on A350-1000.

Domestic A350-900
Seating chart of domestic A350-900
That might be it. JL5/6 after October 29 seems to sell up to 5 F seats only (with a few random exceptions which don't line up). I'll speculate that it's destined to be the A350 with a new 5-seat F cabin.
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