Flying ITA as Skyteam Elite / Elite Plus
#46
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: KNO, ID
Programs: KF Gold, QF Gold, MR Platinum, Accor Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 613
Redeemed Flying Blue from KUL to CGK; since there was no direct flight available on that time; so I was offered on MH for KUL-SIN, and GA SIN-CGK. I changed my FF no. to QF on my KUL-SIN segment since I'm OW Sapphire, so I got MH lounge access at KUL. However, when I changed my FF number to AZ on GA SIN-CGK segment, it was not allowed.
Therefore, I approached the airport check-in agent at SIN, and they also couldn't figure out why they couldn't input the AZ number on my GA flight. Fortunately, the airport check-in team at SIN were very helpful; eventhough they finally couldn't input it to the system, they granted me lounge voucher and as for the priority boarding, they told me that I could just use the ITA Airways apps to show to the boarding gate agent. Didn't try the priority bags since my bag were checked-in at KUL.
Definitely there's no change on Garuda's system since my last attempt using the ITA Airways Skyteam elite+ card 9 months ago. As for the lounge, Garuda uses Marhaba Lounge by Dnata at SIN. The lounge was decent with quite selection foods and drinks to chose.
Therefore, I approached the airport check-in agent at SIN, and they also couldn't figure out why they couldn't input the AZ number on my GA flight. Fortunately, the airport check-in team at SIN were very helpful; eventhough they finally couldn't input it to the system, they granted me lounge voucher and as for the priority boarding, they told me that I could just use the ITA Airways apps to show to the boarding gate agent. Didn't try the priority bags since my bag were checked-in at KUL.
Definitely there's no change on Garuda's system since my last attempt using the ITA Airways Skyteam elite+ card 9 months ago. As for the lounge, Garuda uses Marhaba Lounge by Dnata at SIN. The lounge was decent with quite selection foods and drinks to chose.
#47
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: NC
Programs: AAConciergeKey/2MM, DL DM/2 MM, UA Gold,Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
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Are there any loyalty programs where you can earn miles/points on ITA-marketed/operated flights? What a silly half SkyTeam partnership!
#48
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: FlyingBlue (Platinum); AA (Executive Plat); BAEC (Silver), SPG (Platinum); Hilton (Diamond)
Posts: 704
What about bag weight as SkyTeam Elite+? Flying Economy light from FCO-CDG so assuming I will get a single bag (as the SkyTeam Elite+ extra given zero included with this fare)...but wondering if it has to be under 23kg or if we get up to 32kg.
#50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA silver, Flying Blue gold, Marriott titanium
Posts: 71
Recent experience FCO - AMS
My experience being skyteam elite plus (FB plat) flying on the lowest ITA fare:
-allowed additional checked bag (although not specified at time of booking)
-no free seat selection at time of booking. Able to select other seat (non-exit row) free of charge at check in
-sky priority on boarding pass allowed for priority security and boarding.
-not admitted to new ITA lounge at FCO; sent to nearby lounge which was at capacity. Told this was new arrangement for FB elites, even flying ITA.
-no miles credited (not great, but as expected)
overall, was pleasantly surprised with the baggage, seat selection, security and boarding, but would have liked this to be clear at booking. Obvious that the relationship is unraveling and I would not depend on these benefits in the future if I were to fly ITA again.
-allowed additional checked bag (although not specified at time of booking)
-no free seat selection at time of booking. Able to select other seat (non-exit row) free of charge at check in
-sky priority on boarding pass allowed for priority security and boarding.
-not admitted to new ITA lounge at FCO; sent to nearby lounge which was at capacity. Told this was new arrangement for FB elites, even flying ITA.
-no miles credited (not great, but as expected)
overall, was pleasantly surprised with the baggage, seat selection, security and boarding, but would have liked this to be clear at booking. Obvious that the relationship is unraveling and I would not depend on these benefits in the future if I were to fly ITA again.
#51
Join Date: Jul 2023
Programs: Delta
Posts: 1
My experience being skyteam elite plus (FB plat) flying on the lowest ITA fare:
-allowed additional checked bag (although not specified at time of booking)
-no free seat selection at time of booking. Able to select other seat (non-exit row) free of charge at check in
-sky priority on boarding pass allowed for priority security and boarding.
-not admitted to new ITA lounge at FCO; sent to nearby lounge which was at capacity. Told this was new arrangement for FB elites, even flying ITA.
-no miles credited (not great, but as expected)
overall, was pleasantly surprised with the baggage, seat selection, security and boarding, but would have liked this to be clear at booking. Obvious that the relationship is unraveling and I would not depend on these benefits in the future if I were to fly ITA again.
-allowed additional checked bag (although not specified at time of booking)
-no free seat selection at time of booking. Able to select other seat (non-exit row) free of charge at check in
-sky priority on boarding pass allowed for priority security and boarding.
-not admitted to new ITA lounge at FCO; sent to nearby lounge which was at capacity. Told this was new arrangement for FB elites, even flying ITA.
-no miles credited (not great, but as expected)
overall, was pleasantly surprised with the baggage, seat selection, security and boarding, but would have liked this to be clear at booking. Obvious that the relationship is unraveling and I would not depend on these benefits in the future if I were to fly ITA again.
#52
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA silver, Flying Blue gold, Marriott titanium
Posts: 71
The irritating issue is that it was not clear until I checked in. I then clearly saw online I was entitled to one checked bag, and I was able to change my pre-assigned seat free of charge. Prior to check in, I was being asked to pay for seat selection and luggage. Given the deteriorating relationship with skyteam, I wouldn’t count on any benefits going forward.
#53
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: DL PM/MM, Hilton Silver, SPG+, Hertz PC
Posts: 7,899
Same here (LHR-FCO r/t). Additionally, when trying to book on the ITA website, it doesn't allow me to enter a Delta Skymiles number. The pulldown menu has a bunch of airlines, but not Delta.
#54
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,879
The fees being waved at the airport is sort of useless. By then the good seats will have been taken. And it takes additional time to go to the counter to check-in there, instead of just booking seats online and getting an electronic boarding pass to go straight to the gate - without having to pay for premium seats.
#55
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: DL PM/MM, Hilton Silver, SPG+, Hertz PC
Posts: 7,899
I asked SkyTeam and they replied in writing that on Economy Light fares:
"An additional 10kg for Elite members and 20kg for Elite Plus, or one additional bag where the piece concept applies."
"An additional 10kg for Elite members and 20kg for Elite Plus, or one additional bag where the piece concept applies."
#57
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,795
Has anything changed about any of this? I find myself in the same predicament - The ITA page doesn't even show FB under FFPs that can be selected on the booking, but called and they added it, however regarding seat selections I was told to do it online, where of course it wants to charge me some silly price. Is it still a case of only being possible to change seats for free at the airport and having no issue with lounge access (I don't need the luggage).
#58
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Update: for some reason, my FB number now finally shows correctly on my booking and since it has, I’ve been able to select and change seats for free! (Domestic and European y, cheap fare without luggage).
#59
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 8
Sharing my recent experience flying ITA with DL Platinum from FCO to London
- My DL FF # was not accepted online, so I had to add it at the airport
- I was able to add one bag for free, but had to pay for the bag for the other passenger on the reservation
- I asked about moving to the exit row, but was told I would have to pay for both seats
I wonder if the issue was adding the other passengers DL FF# (without status) or if the benefits are only just for the passenger with status (not extended to others on the reservation) regardless?
- My DL FF # was not accepted online, so I had to add it at the airport
- I was able to add one bag for free, but had to pay for the bag for the other passenger on the reservation
- I asked about moving to the exit row, but was told I would have to pay for both seats
I wonder if the issue was adding the other passengers DL FF# (without status) or if the benefits are only just for the passenger with status (not extended to others on the reservation) regardless?
#60
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Behind the curtain
Programs: Flying Blue, Accor
Posts: 449
Current experience as FB platinum flying on a basic economy fare:
Writing this from the Piemonte lounge in TRN where I was a little surprised to be let in (connecting in FCO to an international flight). We'll see if they accept me in the ITA lounge in Rome.
My FB number was correctly seen on the booking immediately (booked via CTA). I didn't bother with seat selection in advance, but at online checkin I had my choice without any fee. Checkin luggage also correctly offered free of charge. Boarding pass displays clearly both my FB number and ELIP - PLAT.
Writing this from the Piemonte lounge in TRN where I was a little surprised to be let in (connecting in FCO to an international flight). We'll see if they accept me in the ITA lounge in Rome.
My FB number was correctly seen on the booking immediately (booked via CTA). I didn't bother with seat selection in advance, but at online checkin I had my choice without any fee. Checkin luggage also correctly offered free of charge. Boarding pass displays clearly both my FB number and ELIP - PLAT.