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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

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Old Jan 3, 18, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by tarek.h View Post
The IHG network has indeed a bit slowed down:
Dec 28-29, 2017 stay points were credited yesterday
Dec 29-30, 2017 stay shown as pending (as of now) and point will most probably be posted tomorrow
Dec 30-31, 2017 stay will probably be shown as pending tomorrow and be credited on Saturday

My wild guess is that we should have some updates about our RA renewal status over the weekend.
i had a four night stay, In Dec 29th, and Out Jan 2, and it shows two line items, dated 01/04/2018, for pending stays, with the standard caveat:

Please allow up to five business days after your stay for IHGģ Rewards Club points to post to your account.

but if consistent with the previous stay, it should post with two business days, being Jan 4th.

From the immediately previous stay, In Dec 23, Out Dec 28, posted Dec 30, ie within 2 business days, possibly expedited by efficient hotel management?

i think there is a very good chance it will be tomorrow, Jan 4th, consistent with last year.
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Old Jan 3, 18, 10:12 pm
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Originally Posted by EBG1992 View Post
Recived follwing reply from IHG when asking when a decsion on level is to be expected;

Hope you're well.

My name is Anna and I'm pleased to assist a valued Royal Ambassador Spire Elite member like you with your account inquiry.

Please be advised that the Royal Ambassador status is by invitation only and is reviewed every year. Invitations will be issued every January based on activity at InterContinental Hotels & Resorts in the previous year.

Members who have been upgraded or maintained status will receive email communications starting in early January.
Members being downgraded will receive email communications in their month of expiry in 2017.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience this matter has caused you. Should you need further assistance, you can reply to us and we'll be glad to help.

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Has anyone recived a downgrade email in December?
i think that may be a year or two out of date policy.

the reference to "month of expiry" implies various months, as pre 2017, when since 2017, it is December for all of us.
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Old Jan 3, 18, 10:23 pm
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They haven't worked through the list yet. Still RA with nights zeroed out, and theres no chance I've requalified with some 20 IC nights and sub 10k spend.
i don't think the number of nights is relevant, and whilst the general speculation that the hurdle is USD10K, it's quite possible that it may well be a lower threshold, say, USD8K, and i believe there's a chance they may be open to manual adjustments in these first two years, in the transition of the program criterion.

i wouldn't give up hope, and even if in the event, you don't make the initial algorithm, i would reach out, like others did last year.

there were some joyful folk here last here, that were close to being renewed, but initially declined, and were subsequently upgraded, with an email to the right person

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Old Jan 3, 18, 10:55 pm
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My account was just downgraded to "Spire Ambassador" - no communication from IHG. Had around 55 nights, 155k EQP (maybe 140k EQP at IC's).
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Old Jan 3, 18, 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by tarek.h View Post
The IHG network has indeed a bit slowed down:
Dec 28-29, 2017 stay points were credited yesterday
Dec 29-30, 2017 stay shown as pending (as of now) and point will most probably be posted tomorrow
Dec 30-31, 2017 stay will probably be shown as pending tomorrow and be credited on Saturday

My wild guess is that we should have some updates about our RA renewal status over the weekend.
My 24-29 Dec 2017 was posted on 1 Jan 18 as non qualifying and had gotten IHG to perform adjust-stay credit
My 29 - 31 Dec 2017 was posted on 2 Jan 18.
Both stays were at IC ANA Hotel in Tokyo
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Old Jan 3, 18, 11:07 pm
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My account was just downgraded to "Spire Ambassador" - no communication from IHG. Had around 55 nights, 155k EQP (maybe 140k EQP at IC's).
Are you looking on the App or the website (or both)? On the website, it still shows me as Spire Royal Ambassador with exp of 31 Dec 2017. On the app, my card is still Spire Royal Ambassador with exp of 31 Dec 2017, but when I go to my account info on the app, it does show Spire Ambassador. Yikes! I had 54 IC nights at around $13K spend ($15K total at all IHG properties).
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Old Jan 3, 18, 11:07 pm
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My Account on the web (have been RA) now shows " Ambassador expires: 12/31/2017 ".
App Member Card still shows RA until 12/31/2017. Account says Spire Ambassador.
I has around 65 IC nights and around 17K USD.
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My account was just downgraded to "Spire Ambassador" - no communication from IHG. Had around 55 nights, 155k EQP (maybe 140k EQP at IC's).
If, as many of us have heard, the hotels want IHG to reduce the number of RA's then maintaining last years 10k (or whatever it was) is not going to do it, in fact it may increase the number of RAs as people have been more focussed on IC spend at the expense of other options. Therefore in my view the likely outcome is that Mystery7 is the first data point of a much higher hurdle. Should be interesting days ahead.

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Old Jan 3, 18, 11:19 pm
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Webpage AND App are showing Spire AMB (Expiry Dec. 2017...)
Glad Iím already SPG Platinum
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My account was just downgraded to "Spire Ambassador" - no communication from IHG. Had around 55 nights, 155k EQP (maybe 140k EQP at IC's).
i wouldn't be overally concerned just yet.

IIRC, last year, there was some weird stuff going on with accounts leading up to the 4th Jan, and even post that date.
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Originally Posted by VaBeachGirl View Post
Are you looking on the App or the website (or both)? On the website, it still shows me as Spire Royal Ambassador with exp of 31 Dec 2017. On the app, my card is still Spire Royal Ambassador with exp of 31 Dec 2017, but when I go to my account info on the app, it does show Spire Ambassador. Yikes! I had 54 IC nights at around $13K spend ($15K total at all IHG properties).
don't panic.

my account on line has changed from RA to A expires Dec 31st, 2017, when i click on Member Materials, it still shows Royal.

it is definitely the interim IHG IT turbulence

this happened last year.
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Iíve never opened the bleddy IHG app so much... these past few days itís every couple of hours I take a peek at it!

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Old Jan 4, 18, 2:30 am
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IHG.com for me shows "Spire Royal Ambassador", while the iPhone App shows "Royal Ambassador... yet the Android App shows "Spire Ambassador".

So 4 Jan was the date last year? I was on a completely different AMB renewal schedule (non-calendar year) so this is entirely new for me. My last renewal notice was mid-Feb, 2017.

Thankfully the IC I'm at this week has honored the RA benefits (I haven't even asked about it).
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Originally Posted by Kaix View Post
IHG.com for me shows "Spire Royal Ambassador", while the iPhone App shows "Royal Ambassador... yet the Android App shows "Spire Ambassador".

So 4 Jan was the date last year? I was on a completely different AMB renewal schedule (non-calendar year) so this is entirely new for me. My last renewal notice was mid-Feb, 2017.

Thankfully the IC I'm at this week has honored the RA benefits (I haven't even asked about it).
I'm seeing the same discrepancy between Android IHG App and iPhone IHG App. Android app shows Spire Ambassador while iPhone app still shows Royal Ambassador. Website still shows RA with 31 Dec 17 exp.
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I'm hoping to become a first time R/A but it's starting to drive me a little bit nuts, I only really travel for leisure and want to start planning this years hotel bookings, surely IHG are not going to drag the process out until next week???
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