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Update 2019: The RA status granted at the start of the calendar year 2017 and 2018 has been based on IC revenue. As from 2019 criteria again have become vague. RA is not achieved through IC spend only. Other, unknown elements are taken into account as well. (Fact: Some users with very high +25k IC spend were not renewed in 2019.)

Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

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Old Jan 23, 17, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by scubaccr View Post
I looked in shop window 10days ago in Thailand as saw all the 20cl 1/4 bottles for sale and just wanted to be nosey on prices, although obviously the IC buy in both bulk quantities and at wholesale prices.
(A bit like in Berlin i see 5cl whisky/vodka/rum minatures at 2-3euro in a supermarket, Brandy a little more)

20cl Thailand retail cost
vodka/rum was priced 220-250bt
Chivas Regal was priced 370Bt
Henesy Brandy wa priced 700Bt

I used to mainly drink beer 5years ago, but these days go for mostly the spirits+mixers , Absolute Vodka and Chivas Regal. Maybe 1.5 - 2.0 quarter bottles per day on average at IC Bangkok on the nights I have a drink, thats just 3 doubles after all.
so for those wanting to drink in excess of the stipend, about USD 8-10 per 20cl bottles, as long as they're stacking the right champagne
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Originally Posted by Land-of-Miles View Post
Samui limits the consumption to 6 per stay they are outside the minibar as at the Amstel they can do as they like. The T&C's are clear in respect of minibar consumption not stuff outside the minibar.
How do you define "outside the minibar"?

"Minibar", for me, is the concept of having a mini bar inside my hotel room. "Minibar" does not mean "fridge". Just placing items outside the fridge doesn't mean they are "outside the minibar".

In Korea I had a notice in the bathroom advising me that I could buy toothbrush and paste from the minibar (some law is barring them from providing disposable toothbrushes). Of course they didn't place the item inside the fridge.

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Originally Posted by htb View Post
How do you define "outside the minibar"?

"Minibar", for me, is the concept of having a mini bar inside my hotel room. "Minibar" does not mean "fridge". Just placing items outside the fridge doesn't mean they are "outside the minibar".

In Korea I had a notice in the bathroom advising me that I could buy toothbrush and paste from the minibar (some law is barring them from providing disposable toothbrushes). Of course they didn't place the item inside the fridge.

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As I understand it any items outside the actual fridge are only allowed free of charge to RA's at the discretion of the property. Technically that includes red wine quite often.
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Originally Posted by Land-of-Miles View Post
As I understand it any items outside the actual fridge are only allowed free of charge to RA's at the discretion of the property. Technically that includes red wine quite often.
i've never been asked to pay for red wine, as far as i'm concerend, all beverages are covered, whether refrigerated or not, and the snacks, whether refrigerated or not, are not included, that's what the T&C state, Beverages

some properties are generous and include the snacks, they may not have received the memo a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
i've never been asked to pay for red wine, as far as i'm concerend, all beverages are covered, whether refrigerated or not, and the snacks, whether refrigerated or not, are notincluded, that's what the T&C state, Beverages

some properties are generous and include the snacks, they may not have received the memo a few years ago.
I've literally never seen a property that gives free snacks for some reason, but on the flipside, they've never reeeeeeeeeeeeally charged for them either.

But I'd be all up in arms if they charged for a beverage "outside" the minibar.

We're all being really rather petty here btw, considering we're the top 1% or whatever.
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim View Post
I've literally never seen a property that gives free snacks for some reason, but on the flipside, they've never reeeeeeeeeeeeally charged for them either.

But I'd be all up in arms if they charged for a beverage "outside" the minibar.

We're all being really rather petty here btw, considering we're the top 1% or whatever.
the snacks were included in the benefit, up until a few years back.

and even since the reduction in benefit, i tend to avoid them, but i've never been charged for snacks.
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
the snacks were included in the benefit, up until a few years back.
Minibar snacks have never been part of the benefits mandated in the terms and conditions, although many hotels have offered them or simply not charged as far back as 2004 according to various threads.
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Minibar snacks have never been part of the benefits mandated in the terms and conditions, although many hotels have offered them or simply not charged as far back as 2004 according to various threads.
my recollection over the years was the benefit never stipulated beverages exclusively, but stated "Mini Bar" i may be wrong, but for sure no items, beverages, nor snacks were charged for years at all the properties i visited.

some of the long term RA's may recall their experiences?

it's never been a property, ot T&C issue for me, i've never been charged for either.

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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
my recollection over the years was the benefit never stipulated beverages exclusively, but stated "Mini Bar" i may be wrong, but for sure no items, beverages, nor snacks were charged for years at all the properties i visited.

some of the long term RA's may recall their experiences?

it's never been a property, ot T&C issue for me, i've nveer been charged for either.
As far as I recollect, years ago (more than five, probably) the terms changed to
- beverages only (some hotels haven't been enforcing it. I also remember some hotels playing tricks before that, like excluding alcoholic beverages)
- in-room consumption only.

I even recall getting free travel adaptors, USB drives among others from "mini-bars".

The current "beverage only" clause is certainly not new.

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I was told today that they now apply a certain algorithm to judge over individual cases. From pulling together all information I received it is something similar to

EQP * IC Nights
---------------------------- = personal qualification score
Top 10% average IC nights

They will compare your personal qualification score against a set value. If your score is better, you will qualify. Even if this appears to be somehow transparent, the opaque number still is the average number of IC nights, the top 10% (clearance not one percent) do stay with IC. The algorithm take in both, general group turnover and IC nights.
so top 10% of IC spend, we knew spend, now possibly "small %" is ""10%, if correct?



Have we managed to determine whether or not HI, HIX, CP spend will aid re-qualification?
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Have we managed to determine whether or not HI, HIX, CP spend will aid re-qualification?
Nope, it's not known yet.
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post

some of the long term RA's may recall their experiences?

it's never been a property, ot T&C issue for me, i've nveer been charged for either.
2006 was definitely drinks only when I first became RA.
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Originally Posted by johhenrik View Post
Nope, it's not known yet.
However, the informal guidance I got from my IHG contact was "focus on your IC spend, this is what matters". So I'm doing exactly that now.
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However, the informal guidance I got from my IHG contact was "focus on your IC spend, this is what matters". So I'm doing exactly that now.
How? Are you booking higher category rooms now?
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How? Are you booking higher category rooms now?
Yup, and also no longer caring about the other properties. This is probably going to have an odd effect on my IHG bookings - whereas before if there was a HI, I'd likely consider booking there over my other secondary chains unless it was a total dump, but now fortunately I won't bother anymore. We'll see where it gets me end of year.... but my personal plan is to almost-double my IC spend (try to hit an arbitrary goal of 15K or so) and not worry about the other IHG properties at all.
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