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Tim at WebFlyer Jun 25, 2007 9:18 am


Originally Posted by sandyweb33 (Post 7951425)
i can't search "marriott marquis new york city"! what is up with this?

Try using the following with quotes:

marriott marquis "new york city"

Thanks,

sandyweb33 Jun 25, 2007 10:34 am

Thanks, Tim, worked great!

Tim at WebFlyer Jun 26, 2007 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 7910804)
Indeed. Suddenly I can't search the 2007 MLB season thread because MLB isn't long enough. Very annoying.

There is one workaround for this other than google as well, it was mentioned before, but is not explicitly spelled out I don't think, but you can use the wild card for this. So in this case you would search for:

MLB* 2007

and would get the results you are looking for.

hoyateach Jul 28, 2007 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer (Post 7961586)
There is one workaround for this other than google as well, it was mentioned before, but is not explicitly spelled out I don't think, but you can use the wild card for this. So in this case you would search for:

MLB* 2007

and would get the results you are looking for.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just permit three-letter searches?:confused: Every airport code on Earth is three letters long and not every thread contains the airport or city's full name - we FTers do love our shorthand.

directcj Aug 16, 2007 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer (Post 7491541)
This is due to problems that a 3 character search can cause. Specifically stress on the server. One way to get around this that might be mentioned in the faq is the Google search which can do 3 letter word searches and can be found at:

http://www.flyertalk.com/google_search.php

Thanks,

there are others here who have posed the general question of search for 3 letter airport codes, but just to expand on the general theme of 3 letter airport code search, how does one search within a particular forum (ie, Mileage Run Deals) using this functionality?

I don't want to see the 10,000 or so returns if I search for LAX or SNA or xxx.

Tim at WebFlyer Aug 17, 2007 10:30 am


Originally Posted by directcj (Post 8243989)
there are others here who have posed the general question of search for 3 letter airport codes, but just to expand on the general theme of 3 letter airport code search, how does one search within a particular forum (ie, Mileage Run Deals) using this functionality?

I don't want to see the 10,000 or so returns if I search for LAX or SNA or xxx.

It doesn't work 100%, but if you include the name of the forum it should help narrow down the results, so you could search for something like:

LAX "Mileage Run Deals"

in the example you mention. Thanks,

directcj Aug 17, 2007 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer (Post 8248635)
It doesn't work 100%, but if you include the name of the forum it should help narrow down the results, so you could search for something like:

LAX "Mileage Run Deals"

in the example you mention. Thanks,

Tim - that works, thank you.
Also, using the 3 letter code + wildcard (ie LAX*) works albeit you'll get lots of other extraneous results. I wanted to at least restrict the search to the mileage run deal forum.

blowfish Sep 4, 2007 1:29 am

The search term you specified (new) is under the minimum word length (4) and therefore will not be found. Please make this term longer.
If this term contains a wildcard, please make this term more specific.


When i search for, ex SEARCH i get results.

When i try something like: HILTON NEW YORK I cannot get a result. only the message listet above

How to search for things like this?

Canarsie Sep 4, 2007 1:36 am


Originally Posted by blowfish (Post 8344845)
When i try something like: hilton new york I cannot get a result.

How to search for things like this?

As one of the moderators of the Hilton forum, I can answer that for you.

Simply search for York but choose Search Titles Only.

You will find the threads for Hilton New York. This is what I do all the time in the Hilton forum for threads pertaining to New York.

blowfish Sep 4, 2007 1:51 am

Very helpful, Thanks

KathyWdrf Sep 9, 2007 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by directcj (Post 8249425)
Tim - that works, thank you.
Also, using the 3 letter code + wildcard (ie LAX*) works albeit you'll get lots of other extraneous results. I wanted to at least restrict the search to the mileage run deal forum.

It is extremely easy to limit a search to a specific forum (such as Mileage Run Deals). Just use the "Search this forum" feature rather than the "Search" feature. (And then click on "Advanced," and go from there, if you want to use the advanced features such as Titles-Only, etc.). @:-)

ed1 Sep 23, 2007 10:35 pm


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 8344857)
As one of the moderators of the Hilton forum, I can answer that for you.

Simply search for York but choose Search Titles Only.

You will find the threads for Hilton New York. This is what I do all the time in the Hilton forum for threads pertaining to New York.

Not that you would need to in this case, but FT search will work with Hilton "New York" as the search terms.

ed1 Nov 24, 2007 9:50 pm

Since the announcement is now gone I'm pasting my reply about the Beta Search:

It was in the announcements above the Technical Issues Forum, but that's now gone.

I posted this a while ago in Three-Letter Search Not Working! thread:


Originally Posted by ed1 (Post 8555106)
The Beta test search has been turned off as the default search. To use it you have to go to the bottom of the advanced search page and use the "Search Forums -- IB Beta Search" form.

This was covered in the announcement above all forums.


EDIT: Three letter search (such as airport codes) can be used as search term(s) in the Beta Search.

Canarsie Nov 27, 2007 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by ed1 (Post 8783723)
Three letter search (such as airport codes) can be used as search term(s) in the Beta Search.

...as well as two-letter and one-letter searches, which I still have to test.

The three-letter search, which I just tested, has improved tremendously in terms of both performance and accuracy. There are still some features that the beta search engine lacks when compared to the traditional search engine, but in some ways the traditional search engine does not compare to the latest version of the beta search engine. If those missing features were added to the beta search engine, as well as any new suggested features, the beta search engine will then be the most powerful, useful and usable search engine that FlyerTalk has ever had.

Please see the IB Search Beta Update thread for more details.

If and when the beta search engine is not in its test phases anymore, I intend to update this thread with how to use that search engine.

ed1 Nov 28, 2007 5:16 am


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 8800891)
...as well as two-letter and one-letter searches, which I still have to test.

The three-letter search, which I just tested, has improved tremendously in terms of both performance and accuracy. There are still some features that the beta search engine lacks when compared to the traditional search engine, but in some ways the traditional search engine does not compare to the latest version of the beta search engine. If those missing features were added to the beta search engine, as well as any new suggested features, the beta search engine will then be the most powerful, useful and usable search engine that FlyerTalk has ever had.

Please see the IB Search Beta Update thread for more details.

If and when the beta search engine is not in its test phases anymore, I intend to update this thread with how to use that search engine.

Thanks for the update and the link, I hadn't gotten to the tech. forum yet. My usual order is subscribed threads, NW WP, tech, MR disc., MR deals and more if I have time.

I don't know why they removed the announcement about the beta, I have a feeling a lot of newer users don't even know it exists. I just added it here since it was a sticky where someone with a search problem should start. I found out the announcement was gone when I wanted to point a long-time user to it in Search Options - New Beta Option after they combined their advanced search into both beta and advanced search forms and got strange results.

I was sure you'd update this thread when the beta search becomes the FT search. It's nice to see they've made a lot of progress.

Canarsie Nov 28, 2007 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by ed1 (Post 8801522)
I was sure you'd update this thread when the beta search becomes the FT search. It's nice to see they've made a lot of progress.

The beta search engines were virtually worthless to me before the current version of the beta search engine...

...and I am happy to report that searching two-letter terms works just as accurately and just as quickly as searching three-letter terms on FlyerTalk!

ed1 Dec 1, 2007 5:16 am

Well, I can report that a one letter/number search can provide great results using the new beta search.

I searched NW WP Forum for 2% (as it turns out it only searches for the 2 in this case) and found three threads on the "2% club" without even adding club to the search terms. Results were posted in 2% - can I get a straight answer ? in answer to a user who said it wasn't possible to search for 2%.

nbevan Jan 22, 2008 1:35 am


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 7510642)
Sort Results By *** using one of the following choices:
  • Relevancy
  • Title
  • Number of Replies
  • Number of Views
  • Thread Start Date
  • Last Posting Date, which is the default for FlyerTalk
  • User Name
  • Forum
The Reset Fields button resets everything in the Search Forums area back to its default settings.

I wondered why I was having trouble finding things recently. On closer inspection I found that at some point I must have reset my search fields, which now default to Sort Results By Relevancy. :(

Although obvious in hindsight, until I looked more closely, I had assumed that Search was broken.

Could you reset the default back to Last Posting Date (also for the IB Beta Search), as in FT recency usually means relevancy!

Canarsie Jan 22, 2008 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by nbevan (Post 9113065)
I wondered why I was having trouble finding things recently. On closer inspection I found that at some point I must have reset my search fields, which now default to Sort Results By Relevancy. :(

Although obvious in hindsight, until I looked more closely, I had assumed that Search was broken.

Could you reset the default back to Last Posting Date (also for the IB Beta Search), as in FT recency usually means relevancy!

My Search default is still set to Last Posting Date in the classic version of the FlyerTalk search engine, while it is set to Relevance in the Internet Brands beta search engine.

nbevan Jan 22, 2008 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 9115756)
My Search default is still set to Last Posting Date in the classic version of the FlyerTalk search engine, while it is set to Relevance in the Internet Brands beta search engine.

I assume that if you use the reset button, the original search will now default to Relevance?

Brobbel Mar 2, 2008 2:29 am

When I want to see what my last posts or threads are, several are missing. And the "relevance", on what is that based?

ed1 Mar 2, 2008 2:41 am


Originally Posted by Brobbel (Post 9343679)
When I want to see what my last posts or threads are, several are missing. And the "relevance", on what is that based?

See: Search problems

BiziBB Apr 7, 2008 3:30 am

Thanks to the FT team for adding (or maybe I have only now discovered) this new feature:

Search this Thread:

(Located just below this Quick Reply section)


I'll give it a try! ^

ed1 Apr 7, 2008 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by BiziBB (Post 9530559)
Thanks to the FT team for adding (or maybe I have only now discovered) this new feature:

Search this Thread:

(Located just below this Quick Reply section)


I'll give it a try! ^

One caveat here, there is a known issue that requires you to use the advanced search at the bottom of the search box and then make sure the "Show Results as Posts" is selected or it will only return the thread as the result. It is planned to be fixed at some point.

Kagehitokiri Apr 28, 2008 8:24 pm

seems to be working fine for me lately.

so now i can just focus on the removed time delay and character requirement. ^^

only thing i think is still kind of a problem is list by thread listing threads repeatedly.

MileageAddict May 22, 2008 2:26 pm

Searching by specific user by post date results in an error.

cityfishing May 27, 2008 9:06 am

Doing a search in a forum searches all forums. Tried using Advanced Search page and specifying a forum but I still get results for every forum. Argh...

lin821 May 27, 2008 9:18 am


Originally Posted by cityfishing (Post 9783195)
Doing a search in a forum searches all forums. Tried using Advanced Search page and specifying a forum but I still get results for every forum. Argh...

It's one of the NEWER problems with the IB Beta Search. All the search problems are currently reported in the master thread though. :)

In case you missed it: Search Problems

cityfishing May 27, 2008 10:47 pm


Originally Posted by lin821 (Post 9783254)
It's one of the NEWER problems with the IB Beta Search. All the search problems are currently reported in the master thread though. :)

In case you missed it: Search Problems

Thanks. I just read the latest posts on that thread and it seems like multi-forum search problem appeared this weekend.

MileageAddict Dec 30, 2008 2:07 pm

I think the search feature is dead right now....

Canarsie Feb 25, 2009 11:15 am

Once the restoration of the Search function is considered finalized and completed, I intend to update this thread.

nbevan Feb 25, 2009 11:35 am

One big improvement would be to have a link on the search page to a page giving Help on Search. (Does such a page exist at the moment, or is this thread all there is?)

kangyu Dec 14, 2009 12:21 am

also activate Also search in child forums if you want to search in the sub-forums of a forum. A sub-forum is known as a child forum, while the main forum is known as a parent forum. For example, if you chose to search under Global Airline Alliances for your information, choosing Also search in child forums will search the oneworld, SkyTeam and Star Alliance forums. Similarly, choosing to search under Airline Programs for your information with Also search in child forums activated will not only search every airline forum such as the US Airways Dividend Miles forum, but also its America West FlightFund (Discontinued Program) and US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-FlightFund Merger) sub-forums, or child forums, as well.

After choosing the desired settings in how the search should be performed, one must click on the Search Now button in order to activate the results.

Libenitz Mar 13, 2010 1:22 am


Originally Posted by nbevan (Post 11320472)
One big improvement would be to have a link on the search page to a page giving Help on Search. (Does such a page exist at the moment, or is this thread all there is?)

good suggestion. even a link to this thread could prove helpful

wrose99 Sep 19, 2010 8:06 pm

I have been trying to search within this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...u-bna-pit.html
for the word "posted", but I keep getting the following response:
"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search : posted"

As far as I can tell, I am following the below procedure exactly. Any idea what I might be doing wrong? Thanks.


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 7510577)
To do a basic search within a thread on FlyerTalk:
  1. Go to the desired FlyerTalk thread where you want to search for information.
  2. Click on Search this Thread found between Thread Tools and Rate Thread in the dark blue bar near the upper-right portion of the window of your browser.
  3. Type in the key word or words on which your search will be based in the field of the resulting small Search Forums pop-up window.
  4. Click on the Go button to activate the search.


Canarsie Sep 19, 2010 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by wrose99 (Post 14714489)
I have been trying to search within this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...u-bna-pit.html
for the word "posted", but I keep getting the following response:
"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search : posted"

As far as I can tell, I am following the below procedure exactly. Any idea what I might be doing wrong? Thanks.

I get 51 results when I used the search term "posted" — but be sure you include the "" around the word posted, or any other word that the vBulletin bulletin board software which powers FlyerTalk thinks is very common or too short.

Please let me know if this works for you.

wrose99 Oct 8, 2010 7:07 pm

Yes! Thank you very much. Was not accustomed to putting quotes around a single-word search term-- but that works!

Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 14714680)
I get 51 results when I used the search term "posted" — but be sure you include the "" around the word posted, or any other word that the vBulletin bulletin board software which powers FlyerTalk thinks is very common or too short.

Please let me know if this works for you.


Canarsie Mar 24, 2012 1:30 am

I never reported that I am able to successfully search for two-character and even one-character terms when using "" around the term used for searching.

JDiver Apr 21, 2013 7:49 am

However, the use of quotation marks has worked for me when searching titles only, results in titles, for extremely common terms (see Canarsie's post immediately above) or terms using three or fewer characters. "ba" works quote well to find any threads in the American Aadvantage forum, for example, containing the term BA, or "lax" for LAX. (Case is not of consequence when using search, AFAIK.)

SuperKirby Jul 13, 2013 8:20 pm

Maybe it's just me, but anyone notice that when trying to search for a certain topic (broad or detailed), using google and typing 'flyertalk' at the end of the search works better than using the actual search bar on Flyertalk itself?


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