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Can you get a partial refund if you have a flexible fare and prices go down?

Old Apr 30, 19, 7:45 am
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Can you get a partial refund if you have a flexible fare and prices go down?

Forgive me if it’s a stupid question.

I am looking at fares to IPC. At the moment, the best I can find for the itinerary and dates I want is a fairly expensive fare that allows changes for a “minimal” change fee. It appears that LATAM likes to play with availability and POS, so availability is currently very limited despite the flights been in more than 6 and empty.

Should I purchase this fare, can I change to a cheaper one if they release seats in cheaper buckets later on?

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Old Apr 30, 19, 9:18 am
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All depends on the specific fare rules for your specific ticket. Generalizations about "flexibility" may not be sufficient. There are certainly tickets where it is possible to cancel, refund and then purchase a new (cheaper) ticket. But, there are also tickets where there is no refund if you change and the fare drops.
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Old Apr 30, 19, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by Often1 View Post
All depends on the specific fare rules for your specific ticket. Generalizations about "flexibility" may not be sufficient. There are certainly tickets where it is possible to cancel, refund and then purchase a new (cheaper) ticket. But, there are also tickets where there is no refund if you change and the fare drops.
These are the fare rules for the 3 segments. I'm trying to decipher what the answer to my question would be based on these, but any expert help would be appreciated!

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CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED FOR NO-SHOW. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. PENALTIES FOR TICKET CHANGES MUST BE COLLECTED WITHIN THE TICKET USING THE TAX CODE OD. THE NON-USE OF OD TAX CODE WILL BE PENALIZED WITH 5.00USD PLUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE ASSOCIATED TO THE ADM. EXCEPT TICKETS REISSUED IN USA CANADA ARGENTINA OR PARAGUAY. // REISSUE MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT -OTHERWISE IT WILL BE CONSIDERED NO-SHOW AND SUCH PENALTY/RESTRICTION WILL APPLY. -CHANGES TO UNUSED TICKET- 1.WHEN THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE. 2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES // WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY/RESTRICTIVE CONDITION OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY. // CHANGES TO NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENTS SHOULD BE DONE TO AN EQUAL OR A HIGHER FARE COMPONENT. // THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE MUST BE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE AND APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PASSENGER. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. // -CHANGES TO PARTIALY USED TICKETS- THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE. THE RECALCULATED FARE MUST BE THE FARE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL TICKETING DATE. // WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY/RESTRICTIVE CONDITION OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY. // CHANGES TO NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENTS SHOULD BE DONE TO AN EQUAL OR A HIGHER FARE COMPONENT. // THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE MUST BE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE AND APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PASSENGER. CHILD/ INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. // TICKET VALIDITY FOR WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS IS ONE YEAR FROM TICKET ISSUE DATE. PARTIALLY USED TICKETS ARE VALID PROVIDED TRAVEL IS COMPLETED WITHIN ONE YEAR OR MAXIMUN STAY - WHICHEVER IS EARLIER- FROM THE OUTBOUND TRAVEL OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET. CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. REFUND MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT -OTHERWISE- IT WILL BE CONSIDERED NO-SHOW AND SUCH PENALTY/RESTRICTION WILL APPLY. // REFUND RULES APPLY PER FARE COMPONENT. WHEN COMBINING REFUNDABLE FARES WITH NON REFUNDABLE FARES PROVISIONS WILL APPLY AS FOLLOWS - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL BE REFUNDED UPON PAYMENT OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT IF APPLICABLE. - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. - WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS. //

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CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE USD 50.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. ANY TIME CHARGE USD 50.00 FOR NO-SHOW. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. PENALTIES FOR TICKET CHANGES MUST BE COLLECTED WITHIN THE TICKET USING THE TAX CODE OD. THE NON-USE OF OD TAX CODE WILL BE PENALIZED WITH 5.00USD PLUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE ASSOCIATED TO THE ADM. EXCEPT TICKETS REISSUED IN USA CANADA ARGENTINA OR PARAGUAY. // REISSUE MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT -OTHERWISE IT WILL BE CONSIDERED NO-SHOW AND SUCH PENALTY/RESTRICTION WILL APPLY. -CHANGES TO UNUSED TICKET- 1.WHEN THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE. 2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES // WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY/RESTRICTIVE CONDITION OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY. // CHANGES TO NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENTS SHOULD BE DONE TO AN EQUAL OR A HIGHER FARE COMPONENT. // THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE MUST BE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE AND APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PASSENGER. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. // -CHANGES TO PARTIALY USED TICKETS- THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE. THE RECALCULATED FARE MUST BE THE FARE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL TICKETING DATE. // WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY/RESTRICTIVE CONDITION OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY. // CHANGES TO NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENTS SHOULD BE DONE TO AN EQUAL OR A HIGHER FARE COMPONENT. // THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE MUST BE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE AND APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PASSENGER. CHILD/ INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. // TICKET VALIDITY FOR WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS IS ONE YEAR FROM TICKET ISSUE DATE. PARTIALLY USED TICKETS ARE VALID PROVIDED TRAVEL IS COMPLETED WITHIN ONE YEAR OR MAXIMUN STAY - WHICHEVER IS EARLIER- FROM THE OUTBOUND TRAVEL OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET. CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE 80 PERCENT FOR REFUND. BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. // REFUND MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME OF THE 1ST OUTBOUND FLIGHT OF THE JOURNEY -OTHERWISE IT WILL BE CONSIDERED NO SHOW AND SUCH PENALTY/RESTRICTION WILL APPLY. // REFUND RULES APPLY PER FARE COMPONENT. WHEN COMBINING REFUNDABLE FARES WITH NON REFUNDABLE FARES PROVISIONS WILL APPLY AS FOLLOWS - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL BE REFUNDED UPON PAYMENT OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT IF APPLICABLE. - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. - WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS. //

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CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE USD 50.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. ANY TIME CHARGE USD 50.00 FOR NO-SHOW. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. PENALTIES FOR TICKET CHANGES MUST BE COLLECTED WITHIN THE TICKET USING THE TAX CODE OD. THE NON-USE OF OD TAX CODE WILL BE PENALIZED WITH 5.00USD PLUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE ASSOCIATED TO THE ADM. EXCEPT TICKETS REISSUED IN USA CANADA ARGENTINA OR PARAGUAY. // REISSUE MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT -OTHERWISE IT WILL BE CONSIDERED NO-SHOW AND SUCH PENALTY/RESTRICTION WILL APPLY. -CHANGES TO UNUSED TICKET- 1.WHEN THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE. 2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES // WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY/RESTRICTIVE CONDITION OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY. // CHANGES TO NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENTS SHOULD BE DONE TO AN EQUAL OR A HIGHER FARE COMPONENT. // THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE MUST BE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE AND APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PASSENGER. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. // -CHANGES TO PARTIALY USED TICKETS- THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE. THE RECALCULATED FARE MUST BE THE FARE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL TICKETING DATE. // WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY/RESTRICTIVE CONDITION OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY. // CHANGES TO NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENTS SHOULD BE DONE TO AN EQUAL OR A HIGHER FARE COMPONENT. // THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE MUST BE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE AND APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PASSENGER. CHILD/ INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. // TICKET VALIDITY FOR WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS IS ONE YEAR FROM TICKET ISSUE DATE. PARTIALLY USED TICKETS ARE VALID PROVIDED TRAVEL IS COMPLETED WITHIN ONE YEAR OR MAXIMUN STAY - WHICHEVER IS EARLIER- FROM THE OUTBOUND TRAVEL OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET. CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE 80 PERCENT FOR REFUND. BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. // REFUND MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME OF THE 1ST OUTBOUND FLIGHT OF THE JOURNEY -OTHERWISE IT WILL BE CONSIDERED NO SHOW AND SUCH PENALTY/RESTRICTION WILL APPLY. // REFUND RULES APPLY PER FARE COMPONENT. WHEN COMBINING REFUNDABLE FARES WITH NON REFUNDABLE FARES PROVISIONS WILL APPLY AS FOLLOWS - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL BE REFUNDED UPON PAYMENT OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT IF APPLICABLE. - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. - WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS. //
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Old Apr 30, 19, 1:35 pm
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Can you get a partial refund if you have a flexible fare and prices go down?

Originally Posted by ringingup View Post
Forgive me if it’s a stupid question.

I am looking at fares to IPC. At the moment, the best I can find for the itinerary and dates I want is a fairly expensive fare that allows changes for a “minimal” change fee. It appears that LATAM likes to play with availability and POS, so availability is currently very limited despite the flights been in more than 6 and empty.

Should I purchase this fare, can I change to a cheaper one if they release seats in cheaper buckets later on?
You are the passenger the airlines really like
The price goes up any you happily pay more $$$$$ to the airline
It works both ways
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Old May 1, 19, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by ringingup View Post
Forgive me if it’s a stupid question.

I am looking at fares to IPC. At the moment, the best I can find for the itinerary and dates I want is a fairly expensive fare that allows changes for a “minimal” change fee. It appears that LATAM likes to play with availability and POS, so availability is currently very limited despite the flights been in more than 6 and empty.

Should I purchase this fare, can I change to a cheaper one if they release seats in cheaper buckets later on?
No you can't. You would need to cancel, refund and book a new ticket. No airline will allow a partial refund because a cheaper fare becomes available.

You should wait for lower fares to become available. Booking 6 months ahead is likely to be more expensive than booking say 1-2 months before departure.
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Old May 1, 19, 12:16 pm
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Airlines usually, not always and not invariably:

Require you to pay the applicable change or cancellation fees to refund your original ticket and issue you a new, cheaper ticket.

Use the most restrictive rules applicable to a single segment and apply that to other sectors, even if the others have more liberal terms.

Airlines do not want to make it easy for passengers to switch to lower fares that might become available after booking.
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Old May 2, 19, 2:12 am
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Some dares are refundable against a fee? In other news, bears dump in the woods. I’m not sure what the issue is.
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