Is Miles and More the only program that offers Super deals?
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Is Miles and More the only program that offers Super deals?
I have been looking on the websites of most companies and i cannot seem to find another airline's miles program that offers super deals like lufthansa / M&M .
Each month,They offer various flights at a discounted mileage, like tokyo from fra at 70.000 miles in Y class instead of 150.000-
Does anybody know what other airline, if there is any, that has the same ?
thank you all !
Each month,They offer various flights at a discounted mileage, like tokyo from fra at 70.000 miles in Y class instead of 150.000-
Does anybody know what other airline, if there is any, that has the same ?
thank you all !
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#4
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Where do i find boardingarea ? is it a thread of this forum ?
#8
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Unless you have a stash of existing miles earned under previous conditions, are a captive customer due to corporate contracts, or earn your miles through promotional offers, you ought to consider if those deals are really 'Super'... Lufthansa and Air France's programs charge among the highest taxes in the industry for award tickets (including YQ 'fuel taxes' which don't go down when oil prices and every honest carriers' do, higher taxes for business and first awards on Lufthansa, etc.), their new earning rates based on ticket price are pitiful, especially for non-elites on discounted tickets, and their standard redemption rates are higher than average.
Not to mention LH miles expiring 3 years and a quarter after earning, except for elites (with some of the highest qualification thresholds in the industry) and own credit card holders.
Plus, LH's long haul business 'Mileage Bargains' almost only appear for their own flights, with decidedly subpar (except if travelling with someone) 2-2-2 seating, unless you are willing to buy a separate ticket to Vienna for the rare OS offerings which, unlike LH's, are for short notice redemptions. IIRC there are reports of rare LO business awards, which are of interest as they are the only LH group airline with reasonable taxes on award flights, not that their 2-2-2 788 is anything to get excited about.
Not to mention LH miles expiring 3 years and a quarter after earning, except for elites (with some of the highest qualification thresholds in the industry) and own credit card holders.
Plus, LH's long haul business 'Mileage Bargains' almost only appear for their own flights, with decidedly subpar (except if travelling with someone) 2-2-2 seating, unless you are willing to buy a separate ticket to Vienna for the rare OS offerings which, unlike LH's, are for short notice redemptions. IIRC there are reports of rare LO business awards, which are of interest as they are the only LH group airline with reasonable taxes on award flights, not that their 2-2-2 788 is anything to get excited about.
#9
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Unless you have a stash of existing miles earned under previous conditions, are a captive customer due to corporate contracts, or earn your miles through promotional offers, you ought to consider if those deals are really 'Super'... Lufthansa and Air France's programs charge among the highest taxes in the industry for award tickets (including YQ 'fuel taxes' which don't go down when oil prices and every honest carriers' do, higher taxes for business and first awards on Lufthansa, etc.), their new earning rates based on ticket price are pitiful, especially for non-elites on discounted tickets, and their standard redemption rates are higher than average.
Not to mention LH miles expiring 3 years and a quarter after earning, except for elites (with some of the highest qualification thresholds in the industry) and own credit card holders.
Plus, LH's long haul business 'Mileage Bargains' almost only appear for their own flights, with decidedly subpar (except if travelling with someone) 2-2-2 seating, unless you are willing to buy a separate ticket to Vienna for the rare OS offerings which, unlike LH's, are for short notice redemptions. IIRC there are reports of rare LO business awards, which are of interest as they are the only LH group airline with reasonable taxes on award flights, not that their 2-2-2 788 is anything to get excited about.
Not to mention LH miles expiring 3 years and a quarter after earning, except for elites (with some of the highest qualification thresholds in the industry) and own credit card holders.
Plus, LH's long haul business 'Mileage Bargains' almost only appear for their own flights, with decidedly subpar (except if travelling with someone) 2-2-2 seating, unless you are willing to buy a separate ticket to Vienna for the rare OS offerings which, unlike LH's, are for short notice redemptions. IIRC there are reports of rare LO business awards, which are of interest as they are the only LH group airline with reasonable taxes on award flights, not that their 2-2-2 788 is anything to get excited about.
Thank you for your input.
I have a M&M credit card and collected many miles.
I have found a super deal for a FCO-KIX flight (b747) in business class for 70,000 miles and 540 euro in taxes etc.
It is pretty much a huge bargain to me!
Even though with the miles i have i can only get 2, while we are a fam. of 2 adults and 2 children.
#10
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Aeroplan is also known to have "sales" on some routes from time to time. Sometimes those discounts can be steep requiring as little as half the number of points as a standard award. The only downside to these sales is that it must be on an AC flight which means you'll be paying scam charges (also referred to as the carrier surcharge or fuel surcharge).
#11
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Super Deals on redemptions from LH? First time I am hearing of this and I have been a M&M member for 20+ years. Are they usually just Economy rewards?
#12
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You know, there are some good deals in M&M, but it’s like all these programs, you just have to get to know the sweet spots. And it depends on what you’re looking for and and on your individual circumstances as well.
#13
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Note that some of the airlines that offer award sales generally only offer coach (economy) class award sales. Only some fraction of them offer business class award sales too.
And, as already noted above, some offer award sales for partner flights, and others offer award sales only for their own metal.
And, as already noted above, some offer award sales for partner flights, and others offer award sales only for their own metal.
#14
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Currently, there is Osaka for 70.000 miles in Y class.
Travel in december.
I checked availability, and there is plenty at this discounted milage rate.
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